Who is he who remains in Marvel Comics?
And Marvel fans who tuned in got a special treat: Jonathan Majors, who's set to appear in Marvel Studios' Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania as Kang the Conqueror, making his MCU debut as He Who Remains, a variant of Kang. marvel.comLoki: Jonathan Majors on Playing He Who Remains and the Time Keepers
16 July, 2021 - 10:15pm
With the release of their new Disney+ shows, some fans may have questioned whether Marvel would keep up the same trend. But after WandaVision, The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, and the first few episodes of Loki, it's fair to say that the trend is continuing, with some actually slipping under the radar.
In fact, this very quote came from Captain America: Civil War but was shown in a flashback during episode 8, in which Vision tries to comfort Wanda over the loss of her brother Pietro. These wise words, especially since Vision even said he had never experienced loss like that before, are probably some of the most comforting and beautiful words that exist in the MCU.
This is where the quote above comes in, where Sam explains his decision. Luckily, after watching John Walker take on the mantle, and after stopping the Flag Smashers, Sam realizes that he is one of those women and men that give it meaning and officially becomes Captain America.
Even Hiddleston wasn't too fond of the quote, but still says it shows that Loki's experience of love has been a bumpy road and something he hasn't necessarily ever gotten close to. It's pretty sad when you think of it, poor Loki!
Well, like the entire MCU, the comics and the movies have a lot of differences, so it's hard to tell what chaos magic is in the MCU. That being said, we do know for sure that it is extremely rare and powerful and is a different type of magic from that of Doctor Strange, which opens up multiple doors to some pretty cool magic and demons for the future of the MCU.
Luckily, thanks to his list of amendments, and some sound advice from Sam Wilson once again, Bucky learned that his own worth is measured by himself and himself only, not the opinion of others. We're so glad these two are besties now.
Given as this is the Loki that didn't go through the redemption arc of Thor: Ragnarok and Avengers: Infinity War, but he still sees good in himself. So, Loki is the perfect anti-hero, both good and bad, but mainly just mischievous.
It could also hint towards a return for Billy and Tommy in the future of the MCU, which could happen in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. The post-credits scene gave us a glimpse of Wanda using her chaos magic and we could hear Billy and Tommy in the background. Could they be returning?
Sam has the perfect personality and heart to be Captain America, which is why after all, that Steve chooses him as his successor. Sam listens and wants to help people, which is why he is Captain America, and it only took him six episodes to figure it out.
It was here that Mobius came up with the phrase "Existence is Chaos." The phrase helped him justify his life in the TVA and how committed he is to the cause of protecting the sacred timeline. Could this also link to the future of Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, where Wanda's chaos magic, or perhaps the chaos caused by Sylvie's time bombs in episode 2?
He was a good military man who suddenly felt consumed with way too much power and responsibility when trying to live up to Captain America's name. This quote is the perfect example of his struggles, and it was one of his very first lines.
'Loki' director Kate Herron explains the twisty finale and reveals why she's not coming back for Season 2
16 July, 2021 - 01:41pm
Even if she’s not returning, Herron certainly left her mark on the Marvel Cinematic Universe as Phase 4 continues to unfold. According to Forbes magazine, Loki outpaced both of Marvel’s other streaming series — the Emmy-nominated WandaVision and The Falcon and the Winter Soldier — in terms of popularity. And the last episode has major implications for the rest of the movies and streaming series on the horizon, unlocking the concept of the Marvel multiverse, where each branching timeline leads to an alternate reality populated by variants of familiar heroes and villains.
One of those variants will be none other than Kang the Conquerer, played by Jonathan Majors, who made his debut of sorts in the Loki finale. Herron is quick to note that the person viewers met in the Citadel at the End of Time isn’t Kang, and he’s also not Immortus, aka the “Gardener of Time,” aka Nathaniel Richards — son of founding Fantastic Four members Reed Richard and Sue Storm, who have yet to be introduced into MCU continuity.
“He’s a variant,” Herron says of the character that Majors plays in “For All Time. Always.” “He isn’t necessarily either or both. He’s pulling from Immortus in terms of the comic influence, but He Who Remains is also from the comics, although our interpretation of him in the show is obviously different. Like all of our characters, he’s pulled from the comics into the MCU, but the writers brought something to it, Jonathan brought something to it. All you need to know is that he’s in the Citadel at the End of Time and he’s a variant.”
Herron reveals that she was part of the casting process that eventually led Marvel to Majors, whose breakthrough performance in the 2019 indie drama The Last Black Man in San Francisco also led to high-profile roles in HBO’s Lovecraft Country and Spike Lee’s Da 5 Bloods. The actor is currently filming Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, where he’s expected to make his official debut as the malevolent King under the direction of Peyton Reed.
“It was Peyton, Kevin Feige, myself and the studio talking about who this actor should be,” Herron remembers. “I was so flattered to have a seat at the table in that conversation, because I knew what a massive thing it was for them. Jonathan is an amazing actor, and someone all of us were really excited by. He’s a perfect chameleon and can play so many different characters.”
Technically, Majors made his Loki debut in Episode 5, when we first hear the voices of the supposedly all-powerful Time Keepers that watch over the Time Variance Authority, and who are eventually revealed to be robots in a Wizard of Oz-esque twist. “I was like, ‘Man, that has to be Jonathan,’” Herron says of the actor's uncredited cameo in that episode. "We had that Wizard of Oz reference, and he's also able to do all these different voices."
Whether you want to call him Kang, Immortus or He Who Remains, there's no question that Majors made a huge impression on fans in his first on-camera appearance. "Normally, you expect this sort of thing to be the tease at the end of a movie," Herron notes, alluding to the way Thanos would pop up at the end of various Marvel movies before becoming the main antagonist of the Infinity Saga.
"It was a big secret to be sitting on, but it was so nice to surprise everyone," she continues. "We weren't giving you a little nod to the character — we were giving you a whole meal. And I also love how Loki begins with a conversation between Loki and Mobius and ends with a conversation between Loki, Sylvie and He Who Remains. I was honored to bring Jonathan into the MCU."
Herron also reveals that certain details of the second half of the season changed when Loki shut down production for four months following the outbreak of the coronavirus pandemic. "We had filmed the majority of Episode 1 and a fair share of Episode 2, and I was just starting to do stuff for Episode 4," she remembers. "What I tried to do during those four months was cut together footage that we'd filmed. I noticed little details in things like Wunmi Mosaku's performance as Hunter B-15 and that informed what we did with her character going forward."
The fifth episode, "Journey Into Mystery," — set in a realm filled with Loki variants, including the instant fan favorite Alligator Loki — also underwent some major revisions during the four-month break. "We knew they were going to go to the Void, and somehow get to the Citadel, but we only came up with the idea of Sylvie enchanting Alioth [the monstrous being that guards the Citadel] later on. As we dug into the characters, we realized that it needed to be the power of Sylvie and Loki working as a team to get to their next step. We always knew they were going to meet He Who Remains and the multiverse would be born, but we didn’t know how they were going to get there straightaway."
Since she's stepping away from Loki, Herron has no intel on whether Marvel plans to add any additional Easter eggs to the six episodes she directed, in the same way they apparently tweaked the ending of WandaVision to tease the impending arrival of Doctor Strange now that Sam Raimi's sequel, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, is nearing completion. "I have no idea to be honest," she says. "I don't know the plans of Mr. Feige and all the other films, but I'll be watching as a fan!"
One of the burning questions the yet-to-be-named director of Season 2 will have to answer is whether Loki and Sylvie (Sophia Di Martino) are actually a romantic couple... or just good friends. Herron says she answered that question for herself early on in Season 1. "For me, this was a story about self-love and my interpretation is that there's a love between them and a bond between them," she says. "I'm totally open to how the audiences wants to interpret it! But there's something beautiful about the idea that the one thing that can bring down this big organization is the power of loving yourself. I think that's a very sweet and nice message for the world right now."
"But that’s also Loki and Sylvie's tragedy," Herron notes. "I think she does care deeply about him, she just hasn’t had the same path he has. I always think of Sylvie as being more like how Loki was in the first Thor. She feels betrayed, and she has this pain and anger. She might care about Loki but her main thought is the mission. You see it in her face at the end: the regret and pain. Regret is something we haven’t spoken about much, but it’s an emotion and feeling that’s carried across all our characters in terms of the good versus bad across the show."
But Herron doesn't have any regrets about stepping away from the MCU for now. And as a fan, she has words of wisdom for whatever director is picked to replace her. "Just go for it — that’s my advice," she says, laughing. "For me, it was always 'Go bigger, go weirder and wear your heart on your sleeve.' That’s something we came back to among the writers and the actors. We’re putting them in these fantastical world, but it’s always character first and Loki's emotional journey first. As people know from the comics and the movies, there’s so much left to explore with him."
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