Is Thor in Loki?
The fifth episode of Loki was arguably the show's best yet. It has set up an exciting finale episode. ... In comics, Thor was turned into the amphibian by Loki, and it appears in MCU that Thor has found his way into the Void somehow. The Indian ExpressLoki episode 5: Did you notice Chris Hemsworth’s cameo?
Writer and producer Eric Martin said on Twitter that Hiddleston’s Loki was supposed to get beaten up by Frog Thor — tiny Mjolnir and all — before they went in a different direction. “We actually shot a scene for the Time Theater in Ep 1 of Loki getting pummeled by Frog Thor, but had to cut it to keep things moving,” he wrote on Twitter. “It’s too bad, because Tom was funny as hell.”
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Now that Loki has his own MCU series, fans have started speculating on which of those stories might make the cut. Some Loki-focused stories would make for great arcs while others should be left out. Only time will tell which ones get used and which ones don't.
It's unlikely that this specific story would be adapted simply because it was part of the larger Fear Itself comics event. Removed from it, this specific Loki story wouldn't make a lot of sense and it's hard to imagine Fear Itself being used in the MCU.
This idea has been explored to an extent in the MCU. But future seasons of Loki represent a superb opportunity to dig into the God of Mischief's past and truly explore his motivations. Now that Ragnarok has happed and Asgard has fallen, he might not be as tied to destiny as he once was.
While this would be a great story to adapt, there are a couple of requirements that need to be meant. Specifically, the MCU would need both the X-Men and Asgard. The X-Men will show up at some point, though they'll probably have better things to do. And Asgard is gone. The time for this story has passed.
Any exploration of the relationship between Thor and Loki in the MCU will be welcomed by fans. This story would work as a flashback story or even as an arc that brings the brothers back together. As it stands right now, Thor isn't even aware of the variant Loki's existence. This could be how he finds out.
To an extent, aspects of this story have already played out in Thor: Ragnarok. The big mitigating factor in using this story at this point is the fact that Surtur's fate is unknown. He may not have survived the events of Ragnarok, and he's kind of important to the story.
While the exact story would be incredibly difficult to adapt at this point, there are options. Loki could end up in the Earth-based Asgard, trying to earn the respect of its new leader, Valkyrie. He could still become an Agent of Asgard.
This was definitely a good story, but it's just not necessary in the MCU. There are a lot of great Thor/Loki stories to tell out there, ones that explore their bond on a much deeper level. Double Trouble just wouldn't do much to enhance their MCU narrative any further.
The MCU has been seemingly hinting at the Young Avengers for a while. Iterations of the characters have popped up in a few movies and series with more potentially on the way. If that does come to pass, working in a young Loki would be superb.
This run of Marvel Fanfare was an interesting look into the Asgard of old. Keeping in mind that this is certainly a classic story of Loki's mischievous ways, it just doesn't fit with the version of Asgard depicted in the MCU. It honestly just wouldn't make a lot of sense.
Being a frog didn't make Thor any less worthy, though. He was still able to lift Mjolnir and regain his powers, albeit in frog form. Another classic from the Simonson era, this story is too absurdly unique to not use.
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While some die-hard comic fans may not be satisfied with some of the creative differences Kevin Feige and the rest of Marvel Studios have taken when adapting some of their storylines, there are plenty of instances where the MCU objectively made the right choice not to follow the source material.
Instead, the MCU has focused on specific key pairings such as Vision and Wanda Maximoff, or Gamora and Star-Lord, opting to let other romantic plotlines go by the wayside, in order to better focus on developing their characters.
This is a trope that the MCU has been smart not to adapt. As a result, the deaths of certain characters in the franchise have become more thought-out, memorable, and iconic. The lack of their presence is felt throughout future films, and their legacies are carried on by the fanbase.
This brand of character development has been highly featured in the recent Disney+ shows, with characters like Wanda Maximoff and Loki proving that the MCU knows how to blur the line between hero and villain.
While many comic fans will say that Civil War was a complete mischaracterization of some iconic characters, the same critique cannot be leveled at the movie adaptation. Captain America: Civil War managed to present reasonable arguments from both sides, with the motivations behind Team Cap and Team Iron Man very much falling in-character.
So when the MCU began bringing iconic, larger-than-life superheroes to life, the choice to not bring their extravagant costumes with them was proven to be one for the better. The costumes in the MCU are more realistic and built for functionality, a decision fans have accepted. While there has been a slight shift to more comic-accurate costumes in the newer phases of the MCU, scenes from WandaVision have shown fans exactly why comic-accurate costumes were abandoned early in the creative process.
Films like Thor: Ragnarok found a way to amalgamate two classic comic arcs of two separate characters (Ragnarok and Planet: Hulk) while still staying true to the vision of the MCU. Other films like Avengers: Infinity War and Captain America: Civil War are clearly influenced by the comics, but are full of so many unique aspects that allow the film to exist in a league of their own.
James Gunn's re-imagining of the team for his 2014 film was a huge success, introducing audiences to a dysfunctional group of zany characters that are thrown together in an attempt to save the galaxy. The film adaptation was a far more comedic and goofy version than their comic counterparts and provided fans with the perfect antithesis to the Avengers.
In the comics, while it is common for legacy characters or sidekicks to take up the mantle of their protegés, these changes are not always permanent or lasting. The MCU has made the initiative to pass on the torch for integral characters such as Captain America and Thor to characters such as Sam Wilson and Jane Foster respectively, which not only speaks volumes for the diversity of the MCU, but also bodes well for new plotlines and character development.
Heroes such as Thor, Drax, and Mantis have all had character arcs that haven't run in tandem with their comic counterparts, while villains such as the Red Skull and Loki have been re-imagined in completely different ways.
The character is re-imagined in the MCU in an ostensibly better light, as a physicist for S.H.I.E.L.D whose research on Pym Particles and the Quantum Realm was stolen from him. His heinous past from the comics is wiped clean, and his character is much older than in the original source material, living through the Cold War and working alongside Howard Stark, father of Iron Man.
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Still, while Loki and Thor are a bit estranged at the moment, we couldn’t help but wonder if we’d see the briefest of glimpses of Chris Hemsworth in the Disney+ series. Loki will come and go without a visit from Thor—as we know him—but that doesn’t mean Chris Hemsworth completely stayed away.
In episode five, our Loki met a group of Loki Variants in the Void, including Richard E. Grant’s Classic Loki, Kid Loki, and “Boastful” Loki. And even Alligator Loki. But apparently he isn’t the only animal variant; in the same episode, we get a tiny glimpse of Frog Thor. Or Throg as he’s affectionately nicknamed. (The character itself is a little Easter egg to the amphibious God of Thunder, of which there are a few comic book variations.)
Throg, in episode five, is unfortunately trapped in a jar, struggling to break free. But if those strained grunts sound familiar, it’s because they belong to none other than Chris Hemsworth. In an interview with For All Nerds, Loki director Kate Herron revealed that Hemsworth recorded new dialogue for the appearance. We first heard about this at Entertainment Weekly.
Truly excellent use of new Hemsworth material. Considering so many Loki variants are Hiddleston doppelgängers, it only makes sense that Hemsworth is more than one Thor.
Listen carefully if you want to catch it.
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Clearly someone at Marvel saw the massive viral response to Baby Yoda’s emergence on The Mandalorian and thought a similar ploy might work for Loki. So in episode 5, when Loki encountered a motley crew of pruned variants populating the TVA’s dumping ground at the end of time, one of them randomly was an alligator wearing tiny Loki horns. The arrival of Alligator Loki – who indeed proved much fiercer than his adorable appearance might have implied – did exactly what it was intended to do as social media exploded with joy over the unlikeliest of Loki variants.
Of course in real life alligators are not nearly as cute as they can be made to seem on a streaming series. Fan artist Boss Logic has now created a more realistic and somewhat less adorable Alligator Loki while imagining a spinoff series focused on the viral MCU star. See the image in the space below:
Obviously Loki’s Alligator Loki is himself not quite as adorable as he looks. He was pruned by the TVA for eating a cat after all. And during Loki episode 5’s climactic fight scene, the little guy showed off some definite alligator-like traits by viciously attacking the other variants, even biting off President Loki's hand.
On the surface there's an obvious Baby Yoda comparison to be made with Alligator Loki, and that comparison becomes stronger when considering the viral impact of the character. But Baby Yoda of course was more than just a gimmick on The Mandalorian as he became a central character and even evolved over the course of the show. It remains to be seen though if Alligator Loki will ever get a return engagement on Loki or elsewhere in the MCU. The character does feel very much like a one-off joke of the type often featured on Rick and Morty, the show on which Loki head writer Michael Waldron got his start. And as fans of Rick and Morty know, such joke characters seldom get to come back, unless it's as part of a meta-joke about how Rick and Morty characters never come back. The future therefore doesn't look that bright for Alligator Loki, but then again who knows what the wizards at Disney and Marvel have up their sleeves. There could yet be more to explore for the viral Loki character.
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Tom Hiddleston’s Loki has a deep love of daggers. The blades have long been his weapon of choice. And his affinity for them has roots in the Marvel Comics and Norse mythology. Flash-forward to Loki Episode 5, and the iconic dagger flip has been repeated, he’s used the weapon as a metaphor for love, and he’s received a flaming dagger from Kid Loki. In a recent interview, Hiddleston revealed the God of Mischief’s stylish brandishing of his daggers became a such a staple move because fans loved it so much.
Hiddleston worked with director Kenneth Branagh to develop Loki’s fighting style in 2011’s Thor. He told Entertainment Weekly the small blades were chosen because it was aligned with the character’s origins and it was a stark contrast to Thor’s brute force. Hiddleston said:
“The idea of throwing knives came from something that evolved out of a conversation with Kenneth Branagh, which is that Loki’s fighting style is quick, efficient, and lethal. That Thor was like a block of granite, but Loki was like the wind. You couldn’t really pin him down. Thor was solid, stable, immovable, and enormously powerful. And Loki was dancing around him like a sprite or as unpredictable as the wind. And then the knives, I suppose, stuck in the canon.”
Indeed, they did. Fans have grown to expect Loki to have a dagger with him at all times. They especially loved it when his face lit up upon seeing a pair of daggers in Mobius’ possessions in the Disney+ series.
Of course, Loki eventually found a way to nab the blades for himself. And he repeated his iconic knife flip from Thor: Ragnarok in Loki Episode 3 in an altercation with Sylvie at the TVA. In the same episode, he compared love to a dagger, which was a drunk idea that ended up being a fairly decent metaphor.
Hiddleston knows to include some fun dagger tricks in his Marvel projects because fans love it so much. But his knife flip in Thor: Ragnarok was completely improvised out of a need to not look bored on camera. As Hiddleston told Entertainment Weekly:
“So there’s a big sequence on the bridge at the end of the film, and we all had these sequences of choreography while Chris and Cate Blanchett were fighting together, and myself and Idris and Taika had all these pieces we had to do with the fantastic stunt department in their motion capture suits. And we were doing that run, it was an afternoon, and it was myself and Idris and maybe Taika. I can’t remember. Definitely Idris was there, and it was a two-shot of us fighting these fantastic athletes that are the stunt guys. And I ran out of choreography. Basically, I think I finished my moves before Idris, and he was still rolling, and I didn’t want to just be standing there like a lemon, not doing anything interesting. So I just flipped the knives, and caught them by chance.”
Jack Veal’s Kid Loki gave Loki a flaming sword at the end of episode 5. And the weapon is a shout out to the character’s roots in Norse mythology. In size, it’s somewhere between a dagger and a sword. And Hiddleston used it in his fight against Alioth.
The sword is called Laevateinn. And Laevateinn is to Loki as Mjolnir is to Thor, as in it’s a famous weapon for the character. It’s a magical dagger made of wood and is also referred to as a wand. It’s thought to be one of the most influential weapons in Norse mythology, as it may have led to the death of the god Baldr. That death eventually led to Ragnarok.
Hiddleston’s Loki used the flaming blade against Alioth in “Journey Into Mystery.” And then, he conjured a hilt for it on his back and carried it with him as he and Sylvie walked toward the mysterious castle beyond Alioth’s clouds. No doubt, the flaming dagger will come in handy in the Loki finale on July 14.
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Loki Episode 5 took Marvel fans on a mind-bending journey into a realm filled with all kinds of crazy Loki variants. Being stranded in the void at the end of time forced 2012 Loki (Tom Hiddleston) to join forces with a group of Loki variants that had survived in the dystopia for many years, including Kid Loki, Alligator Loki, and of course, Classic Loki (Richard E. Grant). (Spoilers follow!) When it came to the grand plan to escape the realm at the end of time, Classic Loki sacrificed himself for the cause, to the sound of his own glorious laughter.
However, Marvel fans took the final moment of Grant's Classic Loki and his epic laugh to mean something much deeper...
The arc of Richard E. Grant's Classic Loki was one that saw Loki actually survive Thanos' attack on the Asgardians by faking his own death using powerful illusion magic. Loki then hid out on various planets for years in cowardice, growing old and tired of his evil trickster ways. But then he was pruned by the Time Variance Authority before he could reconcile with his brother, Thor.
Classic Loki is different from his fellow variants in that he is mired in the cynical perspective of age. He thoroughly believes that he and every other Loki are "broken" inside, capable only of narcissism, betrayal, and craven survival. However, when 2012 Loki and Sylvie join forces to defeat the Alioth monster that guards the void, Classic Loki is inspired to have a change of heart. The older Loki uses every ounce of his formidable magic to conjure an illusion that's the size of Asgard, and distract the Alioth long enough for Loki and Sylvie to finally enchant it. The Alioth ends up killing Classic Loki, but not before the old trickster lets out an epic laugh, knowing his death is near.
Fans have been captivated by Classic Loki's final laugh - and what it means. A lot of fan theory has settled into one of two big interpretations of Classic Loki's final moments:
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Last Wednesday's penultimate episode of Loki, the hit Marvel Studios series on Disney+, saw several different Loki Variants take on significant roles in the series. Kid Loki, Classic Loki, Boastful Loki, and Alligator Loki were all introduced in a mid-credits scene in Episode 4, but all really stepped into the spotlight with Episode 5. Now, a few days later, Marvel and Disney+ have given these new characters their own posters.
Monday morning saw the debut of five new character posters for Loki, each featuring one of the popular new Variants. In addition to the Lokis that first appeared in Episode 4, President Loki was also given a poster. If you recall, President Loki was revealed in one of the show's initial trailers, but fans weren't aware that it was a Variant, since the character is also played by Tom Hiddleston.
President Loki is the only Variant to this point that has been played by Hiddleston, save for the main version of the character that we've been following throughout the entire series. Classic Loki is portrayed by Richard E. Grant, Kid Loki is played by Jack Veal, and Boastful Loki is played by Deobia Oparei. Of course, Sophia Di Martino plays Sylvie, who is also a Loki Variant.
Some of the Variants, like Classic and Kid Loki, have roots in the comic books. However, the widely adored Alligator Loki was a unique creation to the TV show.
“It's so stupid, but it also makes total sense,” Loki head writer Michael Waldron told Marvel.com. “You almost have to take it seriously, like maybe he is [a Loki]? Why shouldn't there be an alligator version of Loki? For all we know, that's an alligator universe or whatever. It's just the sort of irreverent thing that, in this show, we play straight and make the audience take it seriously.”
What do you think of these new Loki character posters? Are you hoping to see some of these Variants again later on down the line? Let us know in the comments!
The Loki Season 1 finale will debut on Disney+ on July 14th.
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In the case of Croki, though, fans who want an Alligator Loki pop will have to go to Hot Topic to purchase one, as it is a Hot Topic exclusive.
Marvel has been an interesting thing where each episode of Loki corresponds with a "Marvel Must Have" on Marvel.com that shows the different figures and other merchandise that you can purchase based on the new episode. After Episode 5, Marvel released the lineup of Funkp pops that fan get buy.
It appears as though President Loki and Kid Loki are both general release Funko Pops, so you can just buy them anywhere that Funko Pops are sold (and luckily, Kid Loki comes with his own little tiny version of Croki, as well). However, for the two biggest stars of the new Loki episode, Croki and Classic Loki, they are both exclusives. Croki is exclusive to Hot Topic while Classic Loki is exclusive to the pop culture retailer, BoxLunch.
Funko is also doing a giveaway with the Croki figure. It tweeted out, "Calling all @LokiOfficial fans! RT and follow @OriginalFunko for the chance to WIN a @HotTopic exclusive Alligator Loki Pop! #Funko #FunkoPop #Loki #Marvel #HotTopic."
Croki, Kid Loki, Classic Loki and President Loki are the latest Funko Pop releases to join the initial five pops that Funko has released based on Loki, namely Variant Loki, Mobius M. Mobius, TVA judge Ravonna Renslayer (who comes with Miss Minutes, TVA soldier Hunter B-15 (Wunmi Mosaku) and Sylvie, the other Loki Variant.
Loki stars Tom Hiddleston as Loki, Owen Wilson as Mobius M. Mobius, Gugu Mbatha-Raw as Ravonna Lexus Renslayer, Wunmi Mosaku as Hunter B-15, Tara Strong as Miss Minutes and Eugene Cordero as Casey, with Sophia Di Martino, Richard E. Grant and Sasha Lane in undisclosed roles. New episodes premiere Wednesdays on Disney+.