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15 July, 2021 - 04:19pm
The Talk co-host Elaine Welteroth can be heard consoling a distraught Sharon Osbourne and telling her 'I know you're not racist,' moments after the British TV star's heated on-air confrontation with Sheryl Underwood.
In a newly unearthed audio recording obtained by DailyMail.com, Welteroth, 34, is heard apologizing to her former co-star and reassuring her that 'no one thinks she's racist' in a conversation in Sharon's dressing room after the explosive March 10 show.
She also tells Osbourne that she believes the co-hosts were 'set up', revealing CBS showrunners initially wanted her to ask the question that sparked the entire firestorm.
Osbourne, 68, left the daytime talk show in late March after a heated debate over her friend Piers Morgan that saw her publicly fall out with Underwood and her other co-stars at The Talk.
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Sharon Osbourne came under fire on The Talk in March after defending friend Piers Morgan in an on-air debate with co-host Sheryl Underwood, who accused him of making racist remarks
Elaine Welteroth was part of the heated discussion on race during the March 10 episode that saw Osbourne publicly fall out with her co-stars and subsequently end her ten-year run on the show
The row began when Morgan stormed out of UK chat show Good Morning Britain on March 9 after saying he didn't believe Meghan Markle was suicidal following her bombshell interview with Oprah Winfrey.
When asked to comment on his remarks on The Talk the following day, Osbourne said that although she disagreed with him, she supported Morgan's right to express his controversial opinion on TV.
Underwood, who is black, pushed back hard and accused Osbourne of downplaying Morgan's comments and giving 'validation' to his 'racist' views.
The incident sparked a wider conversation about race and an internal investigation at CBS after Welteroth reportedly complained of 'a racially insensitive and hostile environment' at the show.
In an on-air address weeks later, Welteroth and Underwood denied claims of a setup and said the two had been forced to stay 'composed' in the face of someone 'who was not listening and who went off the rails into disrespect.'
But an audio recording obtained by DailyMail.com reveals Welteroth appeared to take quite the opposite stance when she discussed the incident with Osbourne behind the scenes after the show.
According to the source who shared the footage, the conversation was captured on Welteroth's microphone which was still hot when she visited a distraught Osbourne in her dressing room after they finished taping.
The clip begins with Osbourne, who was with her makeup artist and her son Jack, sobbing as Welteroth explains that she had pushed back against producers when they asked her to initiate the heated discussion.
'They asked me to ask that question. I said, no I'm not going to ask that question,' Welteroth says. 'I said to them, this is going to be a train wreck.
'Sharon, I'm just so sorry that that went the way that it went.'
Osbourne became defensive during the confrontation and later said she had been 'blindsided' by the question. She fired back at Underwood saying she felt like she was being placed on 'the electric chair' for being Morgan's friend and asked her to show her examples of his alleged racism
In an on-air address weeks later, Welteroth and Underwood denied Osbourne's claims she was setup and said the two had been forced to stay 'composed' in the face of someone 'who was not listening and who went off the rails into disrespect'
In a series of tweets on April 13, Welteroth addressed the incident within the context of race saying black women are often 'painted as villains' even after maintaining their composure and grace 'in the face of disrespect'
Osbourne, who is in tears, replies: 'Do you know what it is though, when you have to sit there and defend yourself? It makes you look guilty because you can't get out of it.
'It's like calling somebody a pedophile, you can't deny it. What do you say?'
Welteroth then goes on to try to console Osbourne and reassure her that she has her co-stars' support.
'I just want you to know, Sharon. Sheryl loves you and respects you so much and had your back behind the scenes. She was not trying to attack you,' she says.
'But I also understand when you had a [long night] of trolls f**king attacking you online, that puts you in a position where you have to defend yourself. You feel like you have to defend yourself.
'And I know you're upset. I know it was terrible, but I just hope that once this blows over that you know Sheryl is your friend. She really is your friend.
'She doesn't think you're racist. I don't think you're racist. No one who knows you would ever say that or think that.'
Osbourne replies sniveling: 'But why couldn't she have said, "I've known you for 11 years, I know you are not racist" instead of, "I don't think you are"?
'No. I know you're not. There's a huge difference. A f**king night and day difference to know.
'I've gone to Sheryl,' Osbourne continues. 'I've said, "educate me. I need to know about your heritage, I need to know things."
'She would tell me to get this book and that book and whatever, and she would help me out with things that I didn't quite understand.
'When that came, I was like...it was like somebody punched me in the face.'
The bombshell audio comes as CBS announced on Wednesday that Jerry O'Connell would be joining Welteroth, Amanda Kloots, and Sheryl Underwood on The Talk as Osbourne's replacement.
In the aftermath of the heated exchange, Osbourne had claimed that she was 'blindsided' on the show by questions about her recent tweet expressing her support for Morgan after his departure was announced.
Welteroth also slammed the 'narratives' framing her and Underwood as 'co-conspirators and attacking someone' as 'false and unfair'
Underwood had also denied the loaded question had been written on their index cards. She admitted she did receive a text apology from Osbourne, but was unsure about whether she was allowed to reply because of the ongoing CBS investigation
On Wednesday, CBS announced Jerry O'Connell was joining The Talk to replace Osbourne. He is seen above with co-stars Sheryl Underwood, Amanda Kloots and Elaine Welteroth, as well as Mark McGrath, far right
'I am with you. I stand by you. People forget that you're paid for your opinion and that you're just speaking your truth,' she wrote to Morgan on Twitter.
The next day Underwood asked Osbourne on air: 'What would you say to people who may feel that, while you're standing by your friend, it appears that you gave validation or safe haven to something that he has uttered that is racist, even if you don't agree?'
Osbourne became defensive and fired back saying she felt like she was being placed on 'the electric chair' for being his friend and asked her co-hosts to show her what Morgan had said that was racist.
'Right now I am talking to a woman I believe is my friend,' Underwood said. 'I don't want anybody here to watch this and think we are attacking you for being racist.'
Osbourne replied: 'I think it's too late. That seed is already sown.'
Later on in their dressing room conversation, Welteroth sympathizes with Osbourne and claims that showrunners had orchestrated the confrontation by instructing Underwood to ask the loaded question.
'They literally made her ask that question,' she says. 'And I thought that she was setting it up in way so that you knew ... I assumed that you guys had had a pre-conversation so that you were on the same page.'
'Agreeing with me? Well fine, they can ask me whatever they want. I'm fine. But ... it's not like, "They're gonna accuse you of being a racist",' Osbourne says.
'Nobody, nobody was even discussing disagreeing with you,' Welteroth replies. 'At least from me, I can tell you straightforward.
'They said: "Do you have anything to say?" I go, "No. If Sharon wants to comment, Sharon should comment and then we move on to the next topic.'
The drama between Osbourne and her co-stars began after Sharon was grilled over her tweet stating her support for friend Piers Morgan after he was fired for criticizing Meghan Markle's bombshell interview with Oprah Winfrey
Osbourne took a stand on The Talk the following day, saying that although she disagreed with him, she supported his right to express his controversial opinion on TV
She then goes on to say: 'And I hear you though, I will take that to heart. You are right, you wanted to hear "you are not a racist, Sharon." We know that.
'I think she [Underwood] thinks she said that but she said, "I don't think you're racist." And I think she meant the same thing.
'And really, that's an enlightening moment for me to hear you say that. I wanna apologize because I don't know what I said, maybe I didn't say, "I know you're not [racist]."
'I might have said "I think", but I need you to know I f**king know you're not.
'I f**king know you're not,' Welteroth says.
After the episode aired, Osbourne issued an apology for her 'panicked' and 'defensive' response, but repeatedly claimed that CBS showrunners framed up the question to provoke an on-air blow up.
Both Welteroth and Underwood then publicly denied that the question had been written on their index cards and slammed 'narratives' framing them as 'co-conspirators and attacking someone' as 'false and unfair.'
In the audio tape, however, Welteroth is heard agreeing with Osbourne when she claims the network set her up.
The row began when Morgan stormed out of UK chat show Good Morning Britain on March 9 after saying he didn't believe Meghan Markle's claims that she was suicidal
The controversy stems from Markle's remarks in the Oprah interview, in which she accused the Royal Family of racism and said she was driven to suicidal thoughts
'They set me up. CBS set me up. And they don't care because they just want ratings,' Osbourne says.
'They don't care. They don't care that I will now have to go around and people think I'm racist. They don't give a s**t. They just want ratings. That's all.'
Welteroth replies: 'And that's the part that's inhumane ... And I was like, don't f**king make us talk about Selena Gomez after this. This is inhumane.'
Osbourne's makeup artist interjects saying: 'Yeah. I heard you say that. I agree 100 on that. How do you transition?'
'What the f**k? I don't have nothing to say. Why are we having this conversation right now?'
The Talk was sent on a month-long hiatus following the heated on-air debate but Osbourne was essentially forced to quit the show
The bombshell audio clip is set to reignite questions over the feud that ended Osbourne's ten-year run on the daytime talk show.
DailyMail.com has contacted CBS for comment.
A source who shared the footage with DailyMail.com said: 'This is simply outrageous, what Elaine has said publicly and privately to Sharon are two different things.
'Listen to the tape, Sharon is sobbing. Horrified that she has been made out to be racist.
'Over and over again Elaine reassures Sharon that she doesn't think she is racist and that she [Elaine] refused to ask the initial question that sparked this.'
'It is outrageous that Elaine has Sharon's back behind the scenes and then files a complaint against her to CBS management.
'Everyone behind the scenes on the show misses Sharon and wants her to come back, they think it is terribly unfair what has happened to her.'
'This tape truly speaks for itself.'
ELAINE WELTWORTH (EW): Hold on. What exactly are we doing right now? Help me understand.
They asked me to ask that question. I said, no I'm not going to ask that question.
I said, wait, what's the intention of this conversation? Because this could go left so fast.
They go, 'let me call you back.' I said to them, this is going to be a train wreck.
Oh look at this sweetheart, you can tell. Sharon I am just so sorry that that went the way that it went.
SHARON OSBOURNE (SO): Do you know what it is though, when you have to sit there and defend yourself? It makes you look guilty because you can't get out of it.
It's like Jack always says, it's like calling somebody a pedophile, you can't deny it. What do you say?
JACK OSBOURNE (JO): It's like how do you....'come look at my web browser, I'm not a pedophile,' like, you know?
EW: I don't think... we...we all agree, when you left we were like, there's no way that we should just [drowned out by ringtone] in that conversation without having a [garbled] altogether.
I thought…I thought - I was told "Sharon wants to comment on Piers", I go, "great!" They go, "OK, is there anything you wanna say?" I was like, no. Not at all.'
SO: As I was driving in this morning, they said do you want to comment on Piers? I said sure I will. Sure.
Four minutes. Four minutes before I went out, they called me and said, "you know, some might not agree with your opinion, is that alright for them to air?"
I said of course it is. We talk whatever they feel. You know, we'll discuss it.
I never thought it was gonna be...that. Because .... whatever you say you just look guilty. And now everybody's gonna have that little seed of doubt: "well you know, maybe she's a bit racist."
EW: 'It's so f**ked up.
SO: These people here, that run this, have no ethics. They don't care. They just want numbers, numbers, numbers.
EW: Did you speak to them? Did you get anyone on the phone yet?
SO: Nobody's here. Nobody's here, the building ... the offices are empty.
EW: I just want you to know, Sharon. Sheryl loves you and respects you so much and had your back behind the scenes. She was not trying to attack you.
But I also understand when you had night long of trolls f**king attacking you online, that puts you in a position where you have to defend yourself. You feel like you have to defend yourself.
And I know you're upset. I know it was terrible, but I just hope that once this blows over, that you know Sheryl is your friend. She really is your friend.
She doesn't think you're racist. I don't think you're racist. No one who knows you would ever say that or think that.
SO: But why couldn't she have said: "I've known you for 11 years, I know you are not racist" instead of, "I don't think you are." No, I know you're not.
There's a huge difference. A f**king night and day difference to know.
I've gone to Sheryl, I've said, "educate me. I need to know about your heritage. I need to know things."
She would tell me to get this book and that book and whatever, and she would help me out with things that I didn't quite understand.
When that came, I was like...it was like somebody punched me in the face.
EW: I don't know if you saw but [showrunner] ran up to me before we got on air and she goes I'm so sorry ...[drowned out by phone ringing]….enough time
Then I go, "we shouldn't be talking about this!"
SO: You said that?
EW: Yeah. That's why I sat there silent thinking... I thought, "okay, Sharon wants to say something. Let her say the thing and then we'll move on to Selena f**king Gomez.
They literally made her ask that question. And I thought that she was setting it up in way so that you knew - I assumed that you guys had had a pre-conversation so that you were on the same page.
SO: No! No! No! I'm running out. Just as I'm running out - I always go for a wee, four- five minutes before.
Phone rings: "How do you feel about not everybody agreeing with you."
Agreeing with me? Well fine, they can ask me whatever they want. I'm fine.
But that's like....it's not like "they're gonna accuse you of being a racist."
EW: Nobody, nobody was even discussing disagreeing with you. At least from me, I can tell you straightforward. They said: "do you have anything to say?"
I go, "no. If Sharon wants to comment, Sharon should comment and then we move on to the next topic.
I have enough s**t going on in my own personal life. To be honest, Sharon, I didn't even read the tweets.
I don't even what people said to you. I only know because people texted me a screenshot and I go, "okay. okay." I literally feel nothing.
But here's the one thing - and maybe we talk about this more another day - but the thing I hope you're aware of, because you said in that room you saw something in her eye, you felt like she was coming at you like a journalist.
Here's the thing that I just want you to just know: Sheryl and I are held to a different standard by black people and people of color out there who expect us to say something about every racist anything... and it puts us in such a f**ked up position.
That even if we don't have the information, if we don't even really care, if we don't really wanna engage, it feels like there's a spotlight on us, you know?
And ... I think that Sheryl was trying to navigate that line, you know what I mean, where she was like, "this is my friend." I know you're not racist.
And I hear you though, I will take that to heart. You are right, you wanted to hear "you are not a racist, Sharon." We know that.
MAKEUP ARTIST: I actually just explained that to her right now.
EW: Yeah. I think she thinks she said that but she said, "I don't think you're racist." And I think she meant the same thing.
SO: "I know" and "I don't think"...is like this far away.
EW: And really, that's an enlightening moment for me to hear you say that. I wanna apologize because I don't know what I said, maybe I didn't say "I know you're not".
I might have said "I think", but I need you to know I f**ing know you're not.
SO: I know that!
EW: I f**king know you're not!
SO: I know that. Now I feel the big picture. I know what happened. I know what happened.
MAKEUP ARTIST: She just told me she got a call at 4 in the morning. It just went f**ing haywire.
SO: No, they set me up. CBS set me up. And they don't care because they just want ratings. They don't care. They don't care that I will now have to go around and people think I'm racist. They don't give a s**t. They just want ratings. That's all.
EW: And that's the part that's inhumane. I was like, don't f**king make us talk about Selena Gomez after this. This is inhumane.
SO: You said that. You did.
MAKEUP ARTIST: Yeah. I heard you say that. I agree 100 on that. How do you transition?
EW: Yeah we're not actors. You don't pay me to be a f**king Oscar-winning actress. No.
MAKEUP ARTIST: That's right. Yeah you did say that.
EW: No. It felt like we were all set up - particularly you - but I also felt set up because I was like sitting there and Sheryl goes, "what would you like to say?"
I'm like...what the f**k? I don't have nothing to say. Why are we having this conversation right now?
MAKEUP ARTIST: But even that second sectors.. I was like change topics! Just change it. Don't even ask ... It was just a lot.
EW: It was so much. And it's like - I'm not even talking to you now, Sharon. I'm not talking ... it's like America.
Black America, White America, Racist America, it's like they're like they're all watching us and there's this pressure to demonstrate how to talk about this stuff, but we haven't ever been guided on how to f**king do this.
I'm not an DNA expert. I didn't know I was gonna come on here and be the - I don't know how to do that, actually.
SO: No! Neither do I, I'm just a f**king old woman [background laughter] that has a lot of stories. I don't f**king care if you're an alien. Are you a nice alien? Then come sit down.
I don't give a ... I just don't judge by anything. How can I be a judge of anybody with my heritage? I can't. And it's like, for numbers, for ratings, they have done this.
MAKEUP ARTIST: Well it's your character. This is like who you are as a person and that's so not anything...
JO: But it's CBS offering up one of their own so they don't have to make an apology. CBS didn't wanna have to make it because everyone is so terrified of fanning the flames of the mob that they just went "alright, let's just f**king serve her up to her own team that way we don't have to say anything. Like "oh it handled itself."
EW: That's right. You're right about that. Because for me I was confused.
When somebody texted me this tweet, I looked at it and I was confused, Sharon, because I thought someone was quoting something you said on the show and I go, "she didn't say that."
And then I look more carefully and say, oh she tweeted that. And to me, I'm like, that's her platform.
If you say that on your platform and you're dealing with trolls your dealing with controversy, that's your business in your own platform. But why are we addressing things on the show that she didn't say on the show?
On the show, you walk this delicate tight rope where you really supported your friend but you didn't alienate people who were people of color who thought you handled yourself really well on the show when you addressed it. Leave it at that.
MAKEUP ARTIST: It happened. It should've just been a statement and then move on.
EW: Maybe it's like, "hey Sharon, you wanna comment on it. Comment on your Twitter, let's just leave it there or something. Or if you really want us to talk about this - thank you. Is my face looking crazy?
Who knows what I look like right now.
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15 July, 2021 - 04:19pm
"Proud to be on this team. Let's go have some fun."
O'Connell has been a guest host on the daytime talk show for a number of months, but it was recently announced that he is now a permanent member of the panel. He will be replacing Sharon Osbourne, who quit The Talk earlier this year after a discussion about race with her former co-anchor Sheryl Underwood.
The US panel show was temporarily taken off air while an investigation was carried out – however, Osbourne made the decision to quit the show.
During a recent episode, O'Connell said: "It's fun, and it works, and we're going to have a lot of fun."
The new co-star of The Talk also posted a video on Instagram to share the announcement, with an excited caption: "Proud to be on this team. Let's go have some fun on @thetalkcbs."
Welteroth commented underneath the Instagram post, sharing a thoughtful and welcoming message to her new co-anchor, saying that The Talk production was "lucky" to have him and added that she was "looking forward" to working with him.
"LET'S GOOOO @mrjerryoc. We adore you and are so lucky to have your unmatched energy, your charm, and your squirmy, gyrating, Zaddy bAwdy in that chair! You make us laugh every day! Looking forward to going on this ride with you by our side."
The Talk airs on CBS in the US.
15 July, 2021 - 11:29am
O’Connell began acting early in life, with his first gig as an actor being a commercial for Duncan Hines cookies. When he was 11, he appeared in Stand By Me. He continued doing commercial work during that time, but in 1988, he landed his first starring role in a Canadian sitcom called My Secret Identity. In 1992, he appeared in the ABC sitcom Camp Wilder with Hilary Swank.
Fans may know O’Connell for some of his bigger projects like Jerry Maguire, Scream 2, Crossing Jordan, and Obsessed. He also played Captain Marvel in the DC Universe Animated Original Movies short film Superman/Shazam!: The Return of Black Adam.
O’Connell is married to actor Rebecca Romijn, who is best known for her role as Mystique in the X-Men trilogy. The two just celebrated their 14th wedding anniversary.
“I love my wife,” O’Connell recently told Entertainment Tonight. “It’s not easy being married to me.”
While on the show, O’Connell is going to try to protect his marriage and relationship with his two daughters, Dolly and Charlie.
“I’m trying to stay married,” he quipped. “I’m hoping that my stint here on The Talk doesn’t split us apart. That would be a bummer.”
Because of this, he won’t share everything on the show.
“With social media, they’re up on it all…they read comments and they’re like, ‘Dad, why did you say that?'” he said of his daughters. “Yeah, certain things are off-limits, especially when you have daughters. I can’t be a complete open book.”
It was announced on Wednesday that O’Connell would be joining The Talk.
“It’s an exciting time. It’s something new,” O’Connell said on the show. “It’s new and it’s a change. Change is good. Change is good. You have to do things that scare you and shake it up a little bit.”
So far, O’Connell has received a warm welcome.
“The ladies here, Sheryl [Underwood], Amanda [Kloots], Elaine [Welteroth], they’re so welcoming,” he told ET. “I came on temporarily in the last few months, and they’re so nice.”
“I think after this year and a half that we’ve all been through, I wanted to have some fun,” he continued. “This is the first time I haven’t been in underwear, in my house, in a year and a half. I just wanted to have a good time, and I think that’s what we’re gonna do on The Talk.“
The actor is excited to bring something new to the show.
“What I think I enhance at The Talk is just, us having fun,” he said.”If somebody says something or has a story that remotely makes me laugh, or that I think is funny or interesting, we’re gonna hammer that. We’re gonna go right in there. I think it’s mostly about us breaking down the stories and having a good time while doing it.
“I think the only thing that does happen is, being a new personality on a show, viewers are used to seeing other people there,” he added. “I think it can take a while for people to get used to it… I tend to get excited and sort of energetic, and based on Instagram comments, that can annoy people.”
15 July, 2021 - 10:09am
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THE Talk’s Elaine Welteroth “told Sharon Osbourne she was set up by producers and is NOT racist” in an audio recording.
Elaine, 34, made the claims to Sharon, 68, after her TV fight with co-host Sheryl Underwood.
Elaine was heard reassuring Sharon that “no one thinks she's racist'” in a conversation that allegedly took place in Sharon's dressing room following the fight that aired on the March 10 episode of The Talk.
She told Sharon she believed she was “set up” by producers and revealed CBS showrunners wanted her to ask the question that sparked fight with Sheryl.
Throughout the conversation, Sharon sobbed as she said Sheryl never publicly confirmed she isn’t racist and said she felt “like somebody punched me in the face.”
She said while she disagreed with Piers' comments, she supported his right to express his opinion.
Sheryl then pushed back and accused Ozzy’s wife of downplaying Piers’ comments and giving ”'validation” to his “racist” opinions.
As Sharon and Elaine spoke in the dressing room, the journalist sympathized with her former co-host and claimed the showrunners orchestrated the confrontation by instructing Sheryl to ask the loaded question.
She said: 'They literally made her ask that question.
“And I thought that she was setting it up in way so that you knew... I assumed that you guys had a pre-conversation so that you were on the same page.”
Elaine later said: “You are right, you wanted to hear, ‘You are not a racist, Sharon.' We know that.
"I think [Sheryl] thinks she said that but she said, ‘I don't think you're racist.’ And I think she meant the same thing.
“And really, that's an enlightening moment for me to hear you say that. I wanna apologize because I don't know what I said, maybe I didn't say, ‘I know you're not [racist].’
“I might have said ‘I think,’ but I need you to know I f**king know you're not.”
Following Sharon’s decision stand by her longtime friend Piers's criticism of Meghan Markle, the show took a month-long hiatus to conduct an internal review.
CBS then announced Sharon had quit the show in March.
After the other co-hosts welcomed Jerry to the show, the 47-year-old then thanked the crew as he added: "It's a special feeling around here."
Jerry joins Sheryl, Elaine, Amanda Kloots and Carrie Ann Inaba, who is currently on a leave of absence.