Is Thor in Loki?
The fifth episode of Loki was arguably the show's best yet. It has set up an exciting finale episode. ... In comics, Thor was turned into the amphibian by Loki, and it appears in MCU that Thor has found his way into the Void somehow. The Indian ExpressLoki episode 5: Did you notice Chris Hemsworth’s cameo?
With "Journey Into Mystery," Disney+'s Loki gave Marvel fans an easter egg bonanza as the titular God of Mischief acquainted himself with his unpredictable new surroundings, the end-of-time trash pile dubbed The Void. The episode answered some big pruning questions, brought Owen Wilson's Mobius back into the fold (thank the lawd), and set up Tom Hiddleston and Sophia Di Martino's star-crossed Lokis up for a space-fortress endgame. But I think we can all agree that the best thing about this penultimate installment was the treasure trove of references (variants) that honored MCU lore, Marvel Comics lore and even some real world urban legends.
So as we wait to learn exactly what is hiding (or being imprisoned) behind the giant smoke monster Alioth, let's take a look at the 20 wildest and most awesome visual references that popped up in Loki's "Journey Into Mystery." This isn't an exhaustive list, of course, and doesn't include elements that don't tie back to comic books or real life, such as the giant stone heads and those bird-like creatures. (We learned the story behind those details from production designer Kasra Farahani.) So without further ado, let's dive in, with the following entries listed mostly in chronological order, if not entirely.
From its earliest seconds, even before giving viewers the payoff on the Avengers Tower tease in Episode 4's mid-credits scene, Loki featured another familiar New York City location in ruins: Doctor Strange's mansion better known as the Sanctum Sanctorum. In case there was any doubt, the circular Seal of the Vishanti window is a dead giveaway. Unless this is all just an astral-projected illusion, of course.
Loki delivered one of its most blatant Kang the Conqueror references yet with the appearance of the Qeng Enterprises Tower. That comic-sourced company purchased the skyscraper from Tony Stark in the source material, and was run by a certain Mr. Gryphon, later revealed to be a variant version of Kang. Does this mean Jonathan Majors won't be wearing any three-piece suits in Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania? Only if they come in purple, I'm sure.
Yes, I know that Alligator Loki was technically introduced in Episode 4, and that it's not a direct representation of a specific comic book Loki variant. But I don't think anyone would argue that the God of Reptile Mischief wasn't both wild and endlessly entertaining. He might very well be the most foul-tempered Loki, also, as evidenced by his impulsive and brutal attacks on his fellow namesakes. (R.I.P. Vote Loki's hand.)
It's presumed that this pirate ship and this 50s-era UFO didn't arrive in The Void at the same time, but that juxtaposition was an early sign that "Journey Into Mystery" wouldn't be your average 44 minutes of television. However, if they did both end up in The Void simultaneously, it's a possible reference to future MCU villain Doctor Doom, whose first comic book appearance centered on both time travel and pirates, and whose 1980s appearance in a Spider-Man newspaper strip saw him taking control of a stereotypical UFO like the one seen in Loki.
For all the giant objects and entire landscapes that are sprinkled throughout The Void, one of the most innocuous visuals is that massive pile of lunch trays and trash, which is a major clue that the TVA does not employ dishwashers or custodians, and that its agents just prune any and all refuse out of the building. And they've clearly been doing it for a long, long time, considering those lunch trays are later shown to also be buried under layers of earth.
After featuring a bunch of non-specific massive stone heads, Loki delivered a giant-head reprise in the oversized form of the villainous Yellowjacket's helmet. It's a slightly different version of the helmet, presumably tying into its pruned variant nature, but is it hinting at Corey Stoll's return for the third Ant-Man film? Maybe not, but don't forget there's a version of the Golden Gate Bridge (and maybe the Bay Bridge also?) there in The Void, calling back to the film franchise's San Francisco location.
While the MCU doesn't always strictly avoid some of Marvel Comics' weirder elements from yore, I would have bet a good amount of money that the we'd never get a live-action take on the infamous Thanos-Copter, which made a single appearance in 1979 issue of Spidey's Super Stories. And yet there it was, in all its Thanos-indicating glory.
Right next to the Thanos-Copter was another yellow object that would be far more destructive than the Mad Titan's chopper: an atom bomb. Production designer Kasra Farahani confirmed to CinemaBlend that this bomb was a visual homage to Stanley Kubrick's brilliant Dr. Strangelove, only with this version being a Japanese A-bomb. This was clearly taken from a timeline where Japan had access to nuclear weapons, which was/is not the case in the real world.
Beyond Thanos-Copter, the biggest fan-favorite moment in Loki Episode 5 was almost definitely the brief and frenetic appearance of Frog Thor, who has apparently been living a depressing existence cooped up inside a jar and unable to break through and regain control of Mjolnir. The jar is labeled T365, a reference to the 1986 Thor comic issue in which Thor is transformed into the mightiest frog of all. (Not to be confused with Throg specifically, since that moniker technically wasn't in the picture until decades later, although the TVA should fix that.) Writer and co-producer Eric Martin revealed that there were plans to feature Frog Thor earlier in the season, but the scene was dropped for time.
Easily the coolest drink of the late '80s and early '90s, the Ghostbusters-branded Ecto-Cooler was the burst of sugary refreshment that paired well with Saturday morning cartoons, at least until it (and weekend cartoons) were discontinued. So it's only natural that it's the drink of choice for Jack Veal's Kid Loki while lounging in his kingdom's throne.
While the E.T. Atari game may be the most notorious video game that's ever existed, Loki referenced the most notorious video gave that's never existed: Polybius. The 20+-year-old urban legend supposes that the government created an arcade game in the 1980s that triggered specific psychoactive effects in players that was reportedly then used for data analysis. Hardly nefarious in today's data-mining world, by all means. In any case, its existence in The Void is obviously proof of the cover-up!
Like the TVA trays, Mardi Gras Loki (probably not his actual moniker) is a callback to Loki itself. As the most dazzling member of Vote Loki's soon-to-mutiny clan in Episode 5, this beads-wearing variant already showed up earlier in the season, albeit in digital form. It occurred in Episode 2, when Mobius used a projector device to show off as assortment of odd-looking Lokis that were previously captured by the TVA, with others including the Frost Giant and Soccer Player variants.
Considering Loki shares parents with Pixar properties such as Toy Story and Cars, it can't be a pure coincidence that the voice of Lightning McQueen is driving a vehicle reminiscent of the Pizza Planet delivery truck, can it? While Skinny's doesn't seem to be a direct reference, I take it as an opposite of something round and planet-sized. And this potential reference works better when combined with...
This theater marquee shown when Mobius drives up in the pseudo-Pizza Planet truck is advertising the feature Oswald and the Martians, which is a solid reference to the 1930 short Mars, starring Mickey Mouse's spiritual predecessor Oswald the Lucky Rabbit. That said, the possible Disney synergy on screen there is somewhat muddled by the fact that Mars was produced by Universal Pictures during Oswald's post-Disney years. (Though he later returned to Disney thanks to a bonkers 2006 deal involving NFL commentator Al Michaels.)
Shown on the dashboard within the Skinny's Pizza truck is a Hula Girl decoration, which definitely isn't the first time Marvel TV shows have featured such an item. Fans will likely remember the (different) Hula Girl ornament in the Funnel of Love food truck that WandaVision's Darcy and Vision steal in Episode 7. Though it was first used as an important totem in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., with Chloe Bennet's Daisy keeping one in her van during her Skye years, and also as a reference to Clark Gregg's Phil Coulson and his life-altering Tahiti experiences. That said, we still don't really know how connected Loki and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. are, all things considered, though James Gunn would say they are not.
One of the strangest urban legend/conspiracy theories of the past 100 years was dubbed the Philadelphia Experiment, which began its life in the 1950s as a rumored military experiment carried on by the Navy that successfully made the massive real-life ship the USS Eldridge invisible to enemy radars. That soon expanded with more unverified reports of matter-transportation, brainwashing and gravitational anomalies, even resulting in a popular 1984 film "adaptation." Hard to tell whether that story is more or less believable than a giant smoke monster destroying it at the end of all time.
In James Gunn's first Guardians of the Galaxy film, Lee Pace's villainous Ronan the Accuser traveled around in an age-old spacecraft called the Dark Aster, and its fairly specific shape definitely pops up in the background of The Void later in the episode. That said, it's possibly a smaller version of the ship, which was 3-miles wide in the film, but doesn't appear to be that large in Loki, though it's also possible a large part of it is underground. On the flip side, perhaps it's the size difference that made it worthy of being pruned.
S.H.I.E.L.D. is known for its massive air-bound Helicarriers within the MCU, with its massive turbines serving as a familiar visual cue for each of their appearances. However, Loki sets up the idea that the dastardly Hydra took control of one or more of the Helicarriers within an alternate timeline. Or, if one makes the unlikely supposition that only "good guys" have Helicarriers, then maybe the implication here is that Hydra was a virtuous and heroic organization in that timeline. Pffft, yeah right. They definitely stole it.
Of all the alt-existence details found in The Void, perhaps my favorite was the appearance by the Great Sphinx of Giza, only not quite the one that everyone has been used to looking for many centuries. The Void's Sphinx still has its nose intact, as opposed to the real-world version, which lost its schnozz to presumed chiselers at some point in the first millennium B.C.E. Definitely one of the oldest artifacts in The Void that Loki viewers were privy to.
Speaking of references to old AF items, just as the magical half-battle against Alioth was getting started, Loki gave viewers a couple of shots of a (presumably giant) stone head of the Living Tribunal. Within Marvel lore, the Living Tribunal is a veiled and multi-faced being whose existence is as old as the universe, and who is known for keeping the multiverse intact. It's not clear if this was the actual head of the pruned Living Tribunal, or merely just a statue version, but it's interesting to think about the multiversal ramifications if it was the "real" character's disembodied head. After all, why would a statue version be important enough to get sent to The Void?
The Burger Chef sign shown in the later scenes of Loki's "Journey Into Mystery" isn't a Marvel or MCU easter egg and while it is indeed a reference to the real-life burger chain that was eventually bought out by Hardee's, the sign in the show appears to be exactly the same as ones that existed during the restaurant's heyday. So what was the reason for it getting pruned into The Void? Perhaps this is the biggest mystery of all! If only I had a couple of 15-cent hamburgers to scarf down while mulling all this over .
There you have it, sports fans. (Maybe the final will feature some alt-universe sports reference, where the Cubs won the World Series for 108 years in a row.) I can't imagine how Loki will follow up on that wild ride with its Season 1 finale, but I can't wait to find out when it hits Disney+ on Wednesday, July 14. For shows that won't necessarily feature dozens of bonkers comic book easter eggs, be sure to keep track of everything throughout the 2021 Summer TV schedule.
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12 July, 2021 - 07:56am
Loki's latest episode (episode 5) introduced a frog version of Thor, which would have been amusing for casual fans and very nostalgic for the hardcore comic book readers.
It was still quite a small moment though, so fans probably wouldn't have thought the team would have taken the time to get the actual Chris Hemsworth to come in and do a voice-over for his iconic character. But that's exactly what they went and did.
Speaking to Views From The 616 podcast, showrunner Kate Herron told the hosts of the scene: "We recorded Chris Hemsworth for that, by the way. We recorded him for that.
If you want to know more about Frog Thor's origins in the comic books, and why the amphibian you see in the show might not be actually be a version of Thor, we've got you covered right here.
You can also vote in our poll on whether you think Alligator Loki or Frog Thor would win in a fight, because democracy.
One of the biggest things the Loki series has introduced was the Marvel Cinematic Universe's first canonically LGBTQ+ character (of importance), and Marvel has promised that more representation will be included going forward.
12 July, 2021 - 07:56am
A new piece of Loki fan art reimagines Thor: Ragnarok’s “get help” scene with Alligator Loki and Frog Thor. The fifth episode of Marvel’s latest Disney+ series sees Tom Hiddleston’s titular trickster stranded in a void at the end of time, where the Time Variance Authority (TVA) sends the branch realities and variants they prune. As the TVA’s dumping ground, “The Void” is full of Marvel Easter eggs and other variants including (but not limited to) Classic Loki, Boastful Loki, Kid Loki, and, of course, Alligator Loki.
As they evade Alioth, the Void’s cloud monster/garbage disposal, the Loki variants lead Hiddleston’s character to their underground hideout filled with discarded TVA junk. As they descend into the lair, the camera pans past layers of dirt, revealing a jar containing a Frog version/variant of Thor, aka Throg, buried in the ground. Eagle-eyed viewers were quick to notice this as well as the jar’s label reading "T365,” a reference to the character’s comic-book origins. However, this Easter Egg paled in comparison to the Internet's reaction to the Reptile of Mischief.
Artist Megan Levens on Twitter recently shared some art depicting Loki’s newest scene-stealers. The piece re-imagines Thor: Ragnarok’s now-iconic scene where Thor (Chris Hemsworth) suggests “let’s do get help” to distract some guards, to which Loki replies, “we are not doing get help.” Cut to Thor carrying his brother and screaming “get help!” before throwing Loki at the guards. Later in the film, when Thor, Loki, and Valkyrie are discussing how they are going to defeat Hela, Loki quips, “I’m not doing get help.” Check out Alligator Loki saying the same to Throg below:
Taika Waititi’s signature brand of irreverence and directorial style famously reinvigorated the Thor franchise with Ragnarok. For example, “get help” is said to be a bit of improvisation between the two Odinsons. That gag may even be referenced in episode 5 of Loki when an army of variants, led by President Loki, invade the Loki lair and begin to betray one another. Kid Loki throws Alligator Loki at a member of the army during the resulting brawl, creating a diversion while our Loki and the rest escape, a clever callback to Thor: Ragnarok.
It’s unclear whether or not Loki will feature more of Alligator Loki or Throg. In Thor: Ragnarok, Thorg was teased when Thor returns to Asgard and witnesses a Loki-themed play. In the production, Matt Damon’s actor playing Loki tells Luke Hemsworth's Thor, “sorry about that time I turned you into a frog.” Presumably, the Throg variant seen in Loki was never turned back into a human. The series’ sixth episode is poised to change the MCU in a big way and, while variants aren’t expected to appear in Waititi’s Thor: Love and Thunder, it’s hard to imagine the events of the show not being referenced. And if Thor: Love and Thunder doesn't see the return of “get help,” at least now there is Levens’ reptilian take on it.
Source: Megan Levens/Twitter
12 July, 2021 - 07:56am
Of the variants, Alligator Loki was the most comical with its tiny horned helmet and its attack on President Loki. It also intrigued fans as the characters themselves were a bit dubious about whether Alligator Loki is, indeed, a Loki variant or simply an alligator. Loki writer Michael Waldron knows the answer, but he is content to let fans debate on Alligator Loki's variant status. However, other interesting facts about the story behind Alligator Loki are surfacing.
Loki writer Eric Martin has revealed that Alligator Loki's appearance was inspired by a real-life support animal named Wally. Martin took to Twitter to share a video of Wally, explaining that while the idea for Alligator Loki came from Waldron, Wally served as a visual reference. The 5ft, 60-lb alligator is a federally licensed emotional support animal who loves cuddles and kisses and helps his owner, Joie Henney, with his depression. Check out the Tweet below:
It is not surprising that Alligator Loki required a visual reference to be brought to life. As Loki director Kate Herron's BTS photo revealed, Alligator Loki was largely created by CGI. The creators most likely needed a visual of how an alligator looks and moves to animate him effectively. Viewers of the video will notice that Wally's size and movements bear a resemblance to Alligator Loki. In fact, at one point, a woman picks up Wally and holds him over her shoulder, in a similar manner to how Kid Loki carries Alligator Loki during the fight.
In addition to giving credit to Wally for inspiring Alligator Loki, Martin is also helping to share Wally's incredible story. The idea of an alligator being an emotional support animal is hard to believe; however, Wally has undeniably helped and supported his owner. Meanwhile, Henney takes good care of Wally and the many other alligators and reptiles that he rehomes. Since Alligator Loki isn't based on a Marvel comic character, Wally serves to provide a unique background to his story. Theories are already forming about Kid Loki's potential return in the MCU's future, and if he does return, Alligator Loki will likely appear again, too. For now, though, Alligator Loki is a fun addition to the Loki series, and his creation helps bring awareness to Wally and Henney's story.
Source: Eric Martin
12 July, 2021 - 04:50am
Loki director on where to find the Chris Hemsworth cameo we all missed
"I was so pleased with all the fun Easter eggs we managed to get in episode five," Herron told the For All Nerds show. "Throg, obviously, getting him in. We recorded Chris Hemsworth for that by the way… that’s like a whole new recording, not recycled. He recorded that."
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So, those amphibious grunts and groans as Frog Thor was trying to escape from his own Easter egg-laden prison (the T-365 on the jar was a reference to the frog’s first canonical appearance in Thor #365) was actually Chris Hemsworth playing a Thor Variant.
It would appear that there are no limits on just how far Marvel Studios will go to try and squeeze in a cool moment or cameo. The Void already included the Thanoscopter and a nod to The Philadelphia Experiment. However, Chris Hemsworth may have had a larger part to play in Loki if they kept to the original plans for the show.
Loki writer and producer Eric Martin revealed in a now deleted post on Twitter (H/T Screen Rant) that, "We actually shot a scene for the Time Theater in Ep 1 of Loki getting pummeled by Frog Thor." Unfortunately for us, they "had to cut it to keep things moving" despite what would have been a belated semi-onscreen reunion for Tom Hiddleston and Chris Hemsworth.
It’s unlikely that Frog Thor will show up again – but Loki might need all the help he can get as we hurtle towards the finale. All signs are pointing towards Kang the Conqueror showing up, especially given the appearance of Alioth in the previous episode. There are still many, many options for who the Big Bad might be and we’ve taken a look at the most likely candidates.
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11 July, 2021 - 10:52pm
While spotting the Thanos-copter in the void was one of the coolest Easter eggs in the entire MCU, there was one other that joined it at the top of the ranks. Episode 5 pulled one of the most beloved — and often poked fun at — characters straight from the Marvel pages and threw him right into Loki.
This moment was also doubly special as it included a special cameo from Chris Hemsworth himself, which many viewers of the episode likely missed.
The tiny — but mighty — amphibian jumps around in the jar, attempting to reach Mjolnir. While he does this, he lets out a few grunts of frustration. And according to "Loki" director Kate Herron (via For All Nerds), these grunts were actually recorded by Chris Hemsworth himself.
Herron clarified that these noises were not recycled from any previous films Hemsworth appeared in, but it was brand new audio the God of Thunder set time aside to do. Fans were hoping to get some sort of cameo from the Australian actor in "Loki," and this was just the perfect way to do it without having him steal the show.
Hemsworth will also lend his voice to Thor in the upcoming MCU series, "What If...?," which is set to debut on Disney+ on August 11.
11 July, 2021 - 06:54pm
In his time throughout the MCU, from The Avengers to Loki, Loki has picked up quite a few nicknames. Ranging from clever to slightly absurd to insulting, his nicknames run the full gamut. Here is a round-up of every nickname Loki has had in the MCU. and where they come from.
However, the timeline mischief in Avengers: Endgame has given Loki a second chance as a variant. Unfortunately, this version of Loki has not gone through the MCU timeline post-Avengers; for him, his attack on New York only happened days ago. Initially, that meant any character development after New York has been lost, but thanks to Mobius and Sylvie, this version of Loki is catching up fast and seems to be on the path to true redemption. In both his timelines, he's picked up a few new nicknames along the way.
Loki releases new episodes every Wednesday on Disney+.