Is Thor in Loki?
Although his father is the giant Fárbauti, he is included among the Aesir (a tribe of gods). Loki is represented as the companion of the great gods Odin and Thor. britannica.comLoki | Mythology, Powers, & Facts
Who was in the jar in Loki Episode 5?
The film, directed by Taika Waititi, is already set to feature more than one version of the God of Thunder. As a result, Throg's cameo in Loki Episode 5, while unexpected, strangely feels like a long time coming at this point. InverseThrog! 'Loki' Episode 5 cameo confirms the best 'Thor 4' leak
Is Alligator Loki a Loki?
With a new fan favorite now firmly established, the team behind the show spoke about the standout character, from what he looked like before to how he acted on set—and whether or not he is, in fact, a Loki. GizmodoAlligator Loki: Everything We Know About Marvel's Next Breakout Superstar
Is classic Loki the real Loki?
Among the episode's many, many Loki variants is one known simply as Classic Loki, played by Richard E. Grant. ... “I cast a projection of myself so real even the Mad Titan believed it, then hid as inanimate debris,” says Classic Loki. “After I faked my death, I simply drifted in space. Inverse'Loki' Episode 5 theory retcons 1 major Infinity War moment
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The Loki TV series is filled with twists and turns, which should come as no surprise given the unpredictable nature of Tom Hiddleston's God of Mischief. One of the biggest surprises came with Sylvie's Lady Loki being a version of the Enchantress, not to mention her and Loki apparently falling for each other. The show sparked a lot of fan theories involving Kang the Conqueror and such, with the latest episode now teasing that maybe the TVA's most dangerous agent is, indeed, a Loki Variant too.
This is none other than Owen Wilson's Mobius, who ends up rescuing Sylvie after he got pruned and sent to the Void. Mobius links her up with the rest of the Loki squad, so they can get past Alioth and figure out who's behind the Time-Keepers.
But as he chats with Classic and Kid Loki, Mobius mentions how Lokis always deal in twists and turns in their worlds. Surprises, whether good or bad, seem inescapable, but it just comes with the territory. The thing is, when the Lokis make their final stands, he's the odd man out. However, it might be that Mobius is a Loki that didn't get sent to the Void, but got reconditioned instead via a mind-wipe.
All of this foreshadows something bigger, outside of Mobius achieving redemption. That's also a key theme in Loki, and him being another variant of the God of Mischief could inform why, despite numerous betrayals, he still believes in his mark even if there's little reason to. The way Mobius inspires Loki to be a hero in a way Thor or Odin never could is also telling, as it would actually mean that Loki inspired himself.
Loki is about self-love, after all, and the idea of a Loki variant changing another variant for the better by harnessing the goodness within speaks volumes. It proves Lokis don't have to come from a place of grief or anger to be heroic; they can just be inherently trying to better reality.
It'd be quite a claim to fame by the TVA as well, using a Loki as a mindless pawn, which is the ultimate diss to all other Variants. But ultimately, it paves the way for the perfect revenge story. In this way, Mobius taking down the TVA could be the kind of poetic justice that embodies what a Loki always wants: to break free of oppression and control.
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Opinion: Marvel's "Loki" in a Religious Context | Arts & Culture, Culture, Film & TV Reviews, Living, Opinion, Paganism, Perspectives, Reviews, TWH Features
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The Wild Hunt (https://wildhunt.org/2021/07/opinion-marvels-loki-in-a-religious-context.html)
In the spring of 2011, I dragged myself from an Old Norse final into the cinema across the street from campus. I was dead on my feet, the twice-murdered victim of an all-nighter, done in by noun declension. But I was not, under any circumstances, going to miss the premiere of Thor.
This was back before I was a Pagan, when my fascination was, I thought, purely academic. I was starting to love the stories of these gods enough to write about them, retell them, to study the language they were written in. I had begun to quiz my Pagan friends about them, hesitantly exploring an idea of relating in some real way to the vibrant threads I felt in these stories. In all of this, one figure got most of my attention, and I admitted that, above all else, I was excited to see a version of him portrayed on screen.
Even sleep-drunk and loopy, I was underwhelmed by Tom Hiddleston. This wasn’t fair to him, I knew. I liked the actor, and I liked the character he was portraying – but I didn’t recognize him. Where was my gender-shifting troublemaker, Odin’s brother, the mother of monsters, the god that had caught my interest so deeply? Who was this sad, betrayed prince?
Thor, I could recognize occasionally – there was something of the myths in his brash good humor and strong, if occasionally unexamined, code of ethics. Loki, on the other hand, seemed like a stranger. I went home disappointed, crashed into the sleep of the overcaffeinated, and woke up with the knowledge that the movie I had looked forward to had nothing to do with the myths I loved.
Now, looking back with a decade of spiritual growth and media consumption, I’m glad to say that I was mistaken.
Tom Hiddleston appearing in costume as Loki at San Diego Comic Con 2013 [Gage Skidmore, Wikimedia Commons, CC 2.0]
To hear Hiddleston tell it, his depiction of Marvel’s Loki has been a mix of love and responsibility, a careful characterization informed by the mythology from the start. What I have heard from the Pagan community has been more divisive. The American Heathen community has fought over Loki for a long time, and his followers have struggled to find places where they can toast him in public. The popularity of Hiddleston’s portrayal has often been weaponized in circles where the deity is not welcome.
“Modern Lokeans – especially when dismissed more recently as ‘teenage Marvel fangirls’ by other Heathens,” my partner Bat Collazo says in zir introduction to the Loki devotional Blood Unbound, “are often stereotyped as immature, unacceptably feminine, and hyperemotional.” This stereotype has been repeated so often that it’s hard to find examples on the internet under the volume of Lokeans attempting to respond, but the shape of it is clear: someone (almost always a young girl in this stereotype) sees a Marvel movie and starts worshipping Loki without knowing anything about the original myths. Even worse, her attraction to the actor means that her devotion is sexually charged.
Questioning her relationship with the god causes her to lash out in unreasonable ways, and she stops all other practice in a community with her outspoken religious fervor. She’s a strawman to be derided, or distanced from, and never ever to be taken seriously. There is nothing in her practice that has anything to do with the myths – or so goes the stereotype.
I’ve thought a lot about this imaginary Lokean over the years. I’ll set aside for the moment the now-apocryphal story of the comics author who dreamed he was visited by Thor, Loki, and Odin while writing Thor for the first time. I’ll set aside the fact that gods are opportunistic, and that Loki’s name has been on the lips of legal experts and Lucky Charms salesmen for almost a decade. I’ll set aside the folks who, having seen the movies, went and found the myths and became “proper” Heathens, sometimes distancing themselves from the overly sexual ‘she’ of the internet.
With apologies, I’ll set aside the people who identify with some aspect of this stereotype – the godspouses, the cosplayers, and the devout whose defenses of their god are deemed too unruly. The nature of things is that this stereotype, this “she,” exists in her entirety somewhere, this young beloved of Loki, her practice based entirely on the media, her interest limited to the figure as portrayed by a long-haired British Hamlet.
And her practice is as real as mine.
This should be self-evident. Pop culture Paganism has been around since at least 2004 in its current form, and I have heard elders talk at length about the importance of Wagner, Tolkein, and even Butcher in their practice. In a world where an idea filled with intent can give rise to a form, every character is in itself a spirit. I don’t believe that I could move through these spirits without them affecting me, in some way.
The implicit judgment in the straw man of the stereotyped Lokean is that some of these stories are, for one reason or another, more weighty. Their value as spiritual guides and companions is greater because they, in themselves, are bigger than their counterparts. Smaller spirits are less important, and the idea that someone might be getting a valuable spiritual experience out of their unresearched practice doesn’t bear thinking about.
A Loki cosplayer at the Comikaze Expo 2011 [Srini Rajan, Wikimedia Commons, CC 2.0]
I can sympathize with that. In my opinion, Loki, the currently-ongoing Disney+ miniseries, is a poorly-paced, overwrought, underscripted mess. While not as bad as the bag of plot shards that made up its predecessor, The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, Loki is too many good ideas with too little follow through and will not go down as one of Marvel’s greatest contributions to the culture. Watching the previews, I expected a six-hour popcorn flick at best. I didn’t expect any kind of lasting impression, at all, and it definitely isn’t a series I would have expected to sit with, nodding along in recognition.
With Hiddleston as executive producer, it’s not surprising that the show is a loving, if somewhat meandering, exploration of Loki’s character and motivations. What’s more of a shock is where that exploration takes us. The premise at the core of the season is straight out of the most over-the-top and goofy days of comics. Three beings watch over all of time, ensuring that events happen in the order they are supposed to happen, “pruning” any timeline where circumstances go awry.
Top of their list of offenders is Loki, whose mere existence seems to cause deviations from “The Sacred Timeline.” The protagonist is a Loki taken from directly after the first Avengers movie, before most of the hard-won character development of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Without his brother, out-gunned and reeling in a context he doesn’t understand, this Loki is slammed through a series of existential crises in the form of “Variants” – Lokis from other timelines who, for better or for worse, reflect him back on himself.
In this context, Loki’s characterization changes quickly. The subtexts of his struggles in the first two films – what it means to have free will, whether to deviate from or embrace the path that has been set for you, how to love yourself – are spotlighted here, in tones that grow increasingly mythic as the show goes on. One Variant finds shelter in the destruction of worlds, running from those who destroyed her family because she had the audacity to be a girl. Another builds his own Asgard, only to see it devoured, as a theme referencing Wagner’s “Ride of the Valkyries” plays. The title “God of Mischief” is challenged, and changes, slowly, into “God of Outcasts.”
In other words, it’s downright Lokean.
“Loki! The Evil One! Thor’s Eternal Enemy!” A classic comic book image of Loki [Marvel Comics, fair use]
It’s a little outside my paygrade to claim that a Disney property is divinely inspired. While there are moments of Hiddleston’s portrayal that strike a familiar chord, I would highly doubt that he’s a vessel for divinity, retelling the themes of the myths through the pocketbook of Mr. Mouse. He doesn’t need to be. The series is meditating on the same questions that the Lokean community asks itself, referencing the myths, winding towards a conclusion that will echo Ragnarok’s cycle due to the very nature of a franchise. There’s some meat on these glittery silicon bones.
There’s an argument to be made here that gods will take any opportunity to slide into human consciousness and make themselves known. There’s another that points out any character called “Loki” often enough will drift inexorably toward the deity, picking up traces from culture and the divine themself.
I’m not sure if either of those arguments are true. What I’m interested in talking about is a young girl who falls in love with a series about someone who is isolated and unloved, who lashes out against a fate that they do not want, who struggles to find their own worth. I’m interested in someone who sees a character love the feminine version of himself, who claims their shared sexuality, and who is moved to worship. What might this story have to offer her? What might a spirit like that be like? Where, exactly, is the line that makes it less worthy, less itself, than another experience of Loki?
In the penultimate episode of Loki, the main characters walk through a battlefield and into the city beyond, revealed only after the death of a god. I know this scene. Snorri spells it out a little differently, but it’s there in the myths, the same except for every detail. As I watched, I was sure that someone, somewhere, felt it like a revelation.
Wherever that person is, wherever their path takes them, I am glad that they have found a god that gives them meaning. We should all be so lucky.
I really hope this finale is good.
Luke is an eclectic polytheist and a magical Jack of All Trades. They are a proud member of the Chicago Temple of the Fellowship of the Phoenix and The Troth.
© Copyright 2021, The Wild Hunt
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The Marvel Cinematic Universe loves its Easter eggs, and the stranger the project, the more gleefully it deploys them. Both WandaVision and Loki pushed the boundaries of how the MCU tells its stories. As it turns out, that’s led to an eerily matched pair of Easter eggs -- notable for their delivery method as much as what they contain.
Both MCU shows play on the wilder edges of comic-dom, exploring notions of alternate realities and cosmic beings. That gives them license to make overt nods to some of the crazier threads from the comics, while still fitting in with the somewhat more realistic confines of the MCU. In this case, it’s an old chestnut about unseen secrets hidden from view; dropping the camera down into secret basements or hidden lairs and showing the kinds of fabulous secrets the characters are blithely missing as they walk around above and below. The MCU has used the same technique twice now, both times to hide rather outlandish Easter eggs in their drama.
It belongs to the Grim Reaper, a recurring Marvel villain who first appeared in Avengers #52 in 1968. His real name was Eric Williams, brother of Avengers hero Simon Williams, aka Wonder Man. His powers were largely based around a cybernetic scythe which replaced his right arm. He’s connected to Vision via his brother, whose thought patterns were used in the comics as the template for Vision’s mind. He attacked Vision’s synthetic family in the Vision limited series in 2015, where Vis’ wife Virginia killed him.
The label on the side of the jar reads "T-365" -- a nod to Thor #365, which famously saw the God of Thunder transformed into a bullfrog. Though limited to amphibian form, he was still able to wield the Hammer of Thor, and "Throg" eventually became a character in his own right separate from the human hero. It’s no surprise that such a being would be branded a variant by the TVA and tossed into the void for destruction.
The manner in which both Easter eggs appear is intended to evoke a more ridiculous side of the MCU while paying homage to ideas from the comics that might be too outlandish to fit comfortably on the big screen. The shared Easter egg is clever without disrupting the surrounding drama, and in both cases arrives on a show where such oddities are openly accepted. Return calls are unlikely for Throg and Grim Reaper, but the MCU has surprised us before, and the weird plotlines that spawned both moments are likely here to stay as well.
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Through all the movies and shows, Marvel has brought a lot of beloved comic book characters to life on screen. Since his first appearance though, one of the biggest fan favorites has always been Tom Hiddleston’s portrayal of the god of mischief himself, Loki.
Though the character met an untimely demise at the beginning of Avengers: Infinity War, thanks to some time travel hijinks in the next movie in the series, an alternate version of the character was able to escape justice onto his own Disney+ series. Fans have been thrilled to see the character in his own title, and have particularly been pleased by some of the references to the character’s onscreen history.
Loki’s television appearance may be the biggest for the development of his character, it’s far from his first. Prior to Loki, Hiddleston had appeared as Loki in three Thor titles and three Avengers titles.
The character was a villain in earlier titles but was never a throwaway antagonist without a sympathetic motive. A lot of that may be thanks to Hiddleston’s work on the role, as he was immediately praised by fans even after just his appearance in the original Thor. Over time, Loki’s sympathetic motivations gave way to real personal development and bonding with his brother Thor, to the point that his last major appearance in Thor: Ragnarok saw him fighting on the side of the heroes.
Still, that’s not to say Loki was always on the straight and narrow. Most of his altruistic actions always had a hint of self-service to them, and even when being helpful he stayed bristly with arrogance and wit right up until his end. Throughout all his appearances though, Loki’s character always seemed to grow. This made it hurt particularly badly when he was unexpectedly killed at the hands of Thanos.
In the true tradition of comic books, nobody ever stays dead in the MCU. During the events of Avengers: Endgame, Loki escaped thanks to the Avengers’ actions, and now the Disney+ series is following his adventures. While fans were at first skittish about getting to know a new Loki without all his precious character development, the show has been massively successful and has shown an alternate path for the character that has really resonated with fans.
For a sometimes hero, sometimes villain who, even in his own series, grudgingly admits that acts badly because he craves attention, it was still tragic to see Loki have to wait till after his rather abrupt end in the main MCU timeline to finally get his name in the limelight in a series of his own. In the opinions of many fans, it was well worth the wait though.
Loki has never really had his own story without playing second fiddle to a different title hero. Seeing Loki unraveling the mysteries of the TVA and explore the world of alternate timelines has been seriously fun, and this Loki won fans over just as quick as their Loki.
In a discussion on Reddit, fans were quick to share what they enjoyed about the third episode of the series shortly after its release. Many pointed out the many references and other subtle pieces of continuity that tie the whole MCU together.
One fan in the discussion mentioned how Loki at one point threw down a glass, smashing it and yelling “Another!” This was a call back to the first Thor movie when Chris Hemsworth’s Thor had done this in a café and thought it was just a normal way of asking for another. Of course Loki, also raised on Asgard, would have the same Asgardian, albeit a bit odd, customs.
Since this is Loki’s first outing not alongside Thor, it was nice to see this little tribute to Hiddleston’s time on the Thor franchise. “That was great…I bet Tom Hiddleston has always wanted to do that,” wrote another commenter on the discussion. While it’s tough to say that anybody doesn’t want to order another drink like that once, this fan is probably right and Hiddleston has waited for the opportunity to do that center stage for a long time.