Is classic Loki dead?
Among the episode's many, many Loki variants is one known simply as Classic Loki, played by Richard E. Grant. Older than any of the other Loki variants, Loki Episode 5 reveals that Grant's Classic Loki actually managed to survive his predetermined death at the hands of Thanos. Inverse'Loki' Episode 5 theory retcons 1 major Infinity War moment
What is a Loki variant?
"The Variant" is the second episode of the American television series Loki, based on Marvel Comics featuring the character Loki. It follows an alternate version of the character who cannot return to his own timeline and is now working with the Time Variance Authority (TVA) to hunt down a fugitive variant of himself. wikipedia.orgThe Variant
As a variant of Loki (Tom Hiddleston), Classic Loki is meant to be similar but different from the "mischievous scamp" in key ways, and in a one-on-one interview with Collider, Grant explained how that fact, as well as a key bit of the script, affected his performance. He also revealed how he and Hiddleston had talked about potentially working together in the past (in, admittedly, a very different capacity), and his pitch for a Loki spin-off that I think we can all agree is an instant greenlight.
RICHARD E. GRANT: Oh yeah. I'd had experience because I was in Logan about five years ago, so I'd had a taste of what this is, but Tom Hiddleston has said to me, he said, "You know, I think that when people see Classic Loki there's going to be a big response." I thought that he was just blowing smoke up my fundament on the first day to make me feel better about coming into work for one episode, Episode 5, after they'd be doing it for practically a year before. Then I saw my Instagram and Twitter feed and the reviews that came out last Wednesday and I realized that he saw into the crystal ball in a way that I didn't. So Tom was right and I stand gleefully corrected.
GRANT: Yeah. They sent me the costume design with my face on it. It was the classic Loki of the Jack Kirby illustrations of the '60s and it was a fantastic muscle suit. As you can see, I'm born without any. When I got to Atlanta and I said, "So where's the muscle suit that I get into before I get into the green tights?" They said, "What muscle suit?" And I said, "Well, like the drawings." They said, "No. We don't have one for you." And I said, "Well, I don't have any muscles to fill this out." And they said, "Ah, don't worry about that." And I said, "I do worry about that." And I'm still worrying about that and I'm still grouching about it because I wanted those muscles.
GRANT: Wow. I didn't know that.
GRANT: It always surprises me, but what didn't surprise me is that I had... Because I've known Tom Hiddleston socially and from his career and I'd seen him backstage at the theater and things over the decades, we'd always joked about playing father and son, because of our vague similarity in the way that we look. So, when I saw that I thought, "Oh, I've been cast because I have a similar physique or look to Tom." So that's what I thought, but I had no idea. Kate didn't tell me that I was her first choice. People never tell you this stuff. Maybe they think you're going to get too above yourself, but I don't know. I wish people would tell you. I'd love to hear, so thank you for telling me that.
GRANT: Aw. Thank you. She was a delight to work with.
GRANT: I knew that rather than Tom Hiddleston's God of Mischief, [Classic Loki] has this line explaining his past that he is the God of Outcasts, and has been so lonely and isolated on this planet, and is willing to be arrested by the TVA in order to get back in contact with his brother, and to sacrifice himself ultimately to Asgard, I thought that was a way into the character that was not trying to imitate, because I couldn't hope to, what Tom does so brilliantly and has done for over a decade now. So I thought that was the way into doing it.
GRANT: Classic old Loki with muscles and Alligator-dot-com, the subseries of the sub-sub-sub series. That's what I want.
GRANT: Yeah and classic Loki is the only one that can talk to him and understand him. It's a given. It's a scriptwriter's dream. Get it done.
The season finale of Loki premieres Wednesdays on Disney+.
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Here are all the biggest theories regarding how Loki will come to an end. Once upon a time, bringing the MCU to Disney+ seemed like a monumental gamble. That trepidation now seems a trifle misguided, as WandaVision, Falcon & The Winter Soldier and Loki have all found streaming success, and the God of Mischief perhaps more so than Wanda, Viz, Sam and Bucky. Fresh from the Battle of New York (immediately after 2012's The Avengers), Tom Hiddleston's Loki is picked up by the Time Variance Authority, who decree the villain should've been detained by the Avengers and consigned to Asgardian jail as planned.
Since then, Loki has discovered a whole new world of his own variants, one of which he, predictably, fell in love with. Together, Loki and Sylvie have run amok through the TVA; revealing the sacred Time-Keepers as inanimate androids, proving every employee is just a brainwashed variant, and discovering what really happens when a timeline or person gets pruned. Now the pernicious pair have got the better of Alioth, the guard dog of the Void realm, and found some kind of castle on the other side. There, they assume, lies the truth behind the TVA's meddling.
In its first five episodes, Loki has twisted and turned in ways fans haven't necessarily predicted, leaving a multiverse of possibilities for the ending. There are plenty of theories out there, but here are the most exciting and intriguing routes Loki might take as the end looms.
Should Loki and Sylvie enter the otherworldly citadel introduced in episode 5 and discover Kang sitting atop the throne, it's safe to assume they'd be unable to defeat him. Kang still needs to trouble Paul Rudd in 2023, and can't be made to look weak in his MCU debut. Kang might, however, explain his true purpose in creating the TVA, perhaps revealing that his plan has already come to fruition in spite of recent Loki interference. Kang would then blast off into times unknown, ready for a later appearance.
Assuming live-action Kang is motivated by the same lust for conquering as his comic counterpart, there are several ways forming the TVA could've helped attain his goal. Pruning the multiverse into a "Sacred Timeline" might've let Kang mold history to his advantage as the precursor to full-scale invasion. This would explain why the TVA believed their three Time-Keepers were working on an idyllic "ending" for the Sacred Timeline, and also fit a popular theory that the TVA exists within the Quantum Realm. Alternatively, Kang might've been using pruned timelines to source the very best weapons and warriors for his own personal forces, once again in preparation for a temporal war. In either scenario, revealing Kang as the TVA's mastermind would effectively make Loki a prequel to Ant-Man 3 - and perhaps also establish him as the franchise's "new Thanos."
Mirroring this storyline, Loki and Sylvie could switch places with Thor and Jane in a pleasing moment of redemptive symmetry. The two Lokis would enter He Who Remains' citadel and explain how the current treatment of variants is cruel and destructive - especially plucking young children from their families without properly explaining the crime they've committed. Faced with the loved-up Asgardians, He Who Remains might find a better way to guard the timeline; something that doesn't involve condemning entire worlds to the Void.
Of course, this would mean the TVA and Time-Keepers weren't created out of malice, and the true intention of He Who Remains was to protect the timeline and prevent a cataclysmic universe-ending event (even if some details bent the truth). This isn't necessarily what Loki has been building towards. By hiring hypnotized staff and pruning with reckless abandon, the TVA has a palpably sinister edge, which suggests its leader isn't just an old man tasked with protecting reality. Also, why would He Who Remains bother hiding behind three fictional omnipotent beings from the beginning of time when that's precisely what he is anyway?
According to Mobius, the TVA prunes Loki more than any other figure in history. While it's natural to assume this is due to Loki's unpredictable mischievousness, the real reason could be because "final boss" Loki knows the biggest threat to his rule is another version of himself - especially if their power is allowed to grow unchecked. Loki and Sylvie could team-up to defeat their evil variant in a thrilling final battle for the fate of all time. Episode 5 already teased how Loki and Sylvie's powers complement each other, and two in-love Lokis might just be enough to defeat the villainous Time-Keeper Loki.
Loki and Sylvie fighting another version of themselves feels thematically appropriate as an ending to their Disney+ solo (duo) series. On an emotional level, the entire narrative has seen Tom Hiddleston's Loki grapple with his own self-destructive tendencies, whether that be egotistical invasions or betraying the people he loves. Now that MCU Loki has completed that journey of self-discovery, it makes sense his final challenge would be to overcome the most outwardly evil Loki seen thus far.
Another potential way for Loki to save the day would be creating a separate world for all variants to live within peacefully, quite apart from the main timeline. Not only does this help preserve the MCU's continuity by keeping splinter realities to a minimum, but Loki and Sylvie (and Mobius) would be able to live happily together until the end of time. The decision hinges entirely on whether Marvel Studios wants Loki back in the MCU proper, or whether the God of Mischief's Avengers: Infinity War death is to be honored.
Whatever happens, viewers need Mobius riding a jet ski before the end credits roll. This could either happen within Mobius' home timeline of the 1990s, or in the pocket universe Loki could create for himself and the other variants.
This is assuming the TVA's Sacred Timeline explanation wasn't just part of their rhetoric. Some theories claim the MCU already exists within a multiverse and the TVA has only been pruning some diverging timelines, not all of them. Even if a multiverse is already in place, the sudden influx of variant realities after the TVA's dissolution could still catch Stephen Strange's eye.
This way, the MCU's structure remains mostly unchanged (Kevin Feige will have to find another way to instigate his multiverse madness), and the leftover variants, including Loki, are all offered a new purpose under a fairer regime - like when Lotso is kicked out of Sunnyside Daycare at the end of Toy Story 3, but with Mobius instead of Ken. Sylvie, however, might prove a sticking point. Even after the current leadership is ousted, Sylvie could never bring herself to work for the organization she spent her entire life hating. This difference of direction would put Loki and Sylvie on separate paths, but with the potential to bump into each other sometime in the future (or the past).
The final episode of Loki streams Wednesday on Disney+.
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Check out the gallery below for a look.
The posters include “Classic Loki,” a version who survived Thanos and lived in isolation, “Kid Loki,” a version who killed Thor in adolescence and got pruned by the time-monitoring TVA, “Boastful Loki,” a version who managed to assemble all the Infinity Stones, “President Loki,” a version who leads an army of followers in the Void, and last but not least, Alligator Loki, a version that’s exactly what it sounds like.