Is Texas and Oklahoma moving to the SEC?
Texas Longhorns & Oklahoma Sooners To Officially Leave Big 12, Join SEC: Report. ... The move comes less than 48 hours after the Houston Chronicle reported interest of the Longhorns and Sooners in moving to the SEC. Sports IllustratedTexas Longhorns & Oklahoma Sooners To Officially Leave Big 12, Join SEC: Report
When did Texas A&M join the SEC?
With regard to the reasons why the Aggies bolted the Big 12 for the SEC in 2012, Texas and Oklahoma crashing the party changes remarkably little. A decade ago, the college football landscape seemed to be shifting rapidly, and for those in the Big 12, crumbling under their feet. Good Bull HuntingRegardless of if TX/OU crash the party, A&M’s reasons for joining the SEC remain unchanged
Why did Texas A&M leave the Big 12?
The Aggies left the Big 12 for the SEC to develop their identity away from the shadow and influence of Texas. Now that shadow would return with potential consequences to their success and peace of mind. It's no surprise Texas A&M athletics director Ross Bjork came out so demonstrably against the possible addition. USA TODAYAnalysis: Winners and losers if Texas and Oklahoma leave the Big 12 for SEC
How many teams are in the Big 12?
Expansion calls for a vote of three-fourths of the conference membership, or 11 of the 14 teams. Sports IllustratedBig 12 Leaders Expect Texas, Oklahoma to Depart, Leaving Conference in Disarray
While Big 12 officials search for answers from Oklahoma and Texas about their possible departures to the SEC, the league made it clear on Thursday it expects its flagship programs to adhere to the conference bylaws and TV contracts that have been signed.
The Big 12 athletic directors and their university presidents and chancellors held a videoconference on Thursday evening to discuss the possible moves. Both OU and Texas were invited to the meeting but declined to participate in the call, sources said.
In a statement provided to ESPN, the Big 12 said, "There is a recognition that institutions may act in their own self-interest, however there is an expectation that members adhere to Conference bylaws and the enforcement of Grant of Rights agreements."
The Big 12 bylaws require any withdrawing member to give the league at least 18 months' notice. There also is a hefty exit fee -- departing schools must pay the league a "commitment buyout fee," which is an amount equal to the sum of distributions that otherwise would be paid to the school during the final two years of its membership. Exiting schools, according to the bylaws, "shall be deemed to have agreed to forfeit all distributions of any type that otherwise would have been made to the withdrawing member during the interim period" between the notice date and the actual departure date.
Last year, the Big 12 distributed about $38 million to its members, third most among Power 5 conferences, so Texas and Oklahoma would owe about $76 million each.
It's unclear whether both schools are aware of the repercussions, and they both declined comment beyond statements issued on Wednesday. One source said the Big 12 also discussed the possibility of finding more revenue for Texas and OU if their motivation to exit is driven by money.
OU and Texas also signed a Big 12 grant-of-rights agreement, in which they granted their first- and second-tier media rights for football and men's basketball to the conference through June 30, 2025. That means the Big 12 would still own the schools' media rights for those sports -- even if they are no longer members -- until the agreement expires.
During Thursday's meeting, conference officials also scratched the surface on discussions of what the Big 12 might do if OU and Texas left, and one source said that included looking into whether there were other Power 5 programs that might want to join, or if schools such as UCF, Houston, Cincinnati or BYU might make good additions. There was some appetite in the meeting for possibly adding two teams even if OU and Texas decide to stay.
None of those conversations gained significant traction, though, because the next step is figuring out the intents of OU and Texas -- and their motivation.
One source said the next 48 hours will be critical to answering that.
"We need answers sooner than later," one source said, "and we don't have any answers right now."
In the statement provided to ESPN following the meeting, the Big 12 said "the eight members strongly desire to retain the current composition, which has proven it can compete at the highest levels.
"This is a time of dramatic change within intercollegiate athletics that presents both opportunities and challenges, and the Big 12 Conference looks forward to continuing to play a major role in its evolution."
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Sorry, ‘Horns. It ain’t happening.
“Please follow the signs to claim your blowout loss to Alabama.” Outstanding.
22 July, 2021 - 08:17am
It’s fun to talk about but the reality is there may be roadblocks standing in the way for Texas and Oklahoma if they truly plan to join the Southeastern Conference.
Former Texas A&M president R. Bowen Loftin pointed that out to John Talty of AL.com recently as the man that helped the Aggies leave the Big 12 for the SEC is well aware of all the issues that can arise once a move from one league to another is considered.
“Short of a total realignment of the Power 5 into a new world of four conferences, I don’t see this happening,” Loftin said according to AL.com. “But maybe this is the start of something like that.”
The speculation all began after Houston Chronicle reporter Brent Zwerneman broke the news that both Texas and Oklahoma were interested in joining the SEC. At this point, neither school has denied the rumors, however, they also have not confirmed the report.
Or they could bring along Kansas for the BB and an easy annual win in football.
You know nothing of the history of mismanagement of the big 12 if you believe Nebraska has any interest in joining a conference with t.u. The SEC would do well, as would any conference, to review the actions of those guys in Austin and how they have been, and continue to be instrumental in the demise of their conference.
I don’t see that college in Austin joining the SEC. All the “lone state schools” will stick together.
I thought the same, initially, but there’s some thought the other “lone state schools” – GA, FL, KY, SC – may feel the need to slow A&M’s rise by giving us an in-state rival.
No idea if its happening or not but dont like it. that said all the talking heads in sports say its pretty much a done deal. No idea which ones if any know what they are talking about. One of our local radio guys this morning made some interesting points. College Fball is headed to super conferences and other substantial changes, NIL and portal aside. the SEC can get in front of it and with the addition of these 2 schools be the dominant conference for the long term, regardless of what others do. Dont let them in and they go to the pac 12 or big 10 and those conferences take on that role. the sec rules the roost now but not if those 2 schools go to another conference. It actually makes a lot of sense as much as I dont want to see it happen.
I can’t find anything to back this up now, but I remember a deal that A&M, UK, USC, FU, and UGA would all veto any team joining the SEC from on of their states. On top of that, Mizzou hates tu, so I think the likelihood of the longhorns joining is pretty slim. LSU might also have an issue since they poach a lot of talent out of Texas, and keeping Austin in the Big 12 would probably help them maintain that edge, even though I’m sure they’re less concerned than A&M.
Agreed. I read that those schools had a ‘gentleman’s agreement’ regarding blocking other schools from their states. A&M wasn’t mentioned and I haven’t read anything that includes A&M. However, I would think it would be easy to get those schools to agree to block t.u. and we would agree to do likewise for them.
Only four schools have to vote ‘no’ to block this. A&M, of course, will vote ‘no’ as will Mizzou. I would think Arkansas and LSU will each vote ‘no’ as this would directly impact their recruiting.
I think getting 11 schools to sign off on this would be very difficult.
I don’t think losing Texas and Oklahoma to the pac12 or Big 10 would put either of those conferences ahead of the sec. People just care more in the sec, with the exception of vanderbilt.