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But after being "taken to a local hospital for further cautionary tests", Verstappen posted on social media saying Hamilton's move had been "dangerous" and his victory celebrations were "disrespectful and unsportsmanlike". Celebrating his win, Hamilton said: "This is a dream for me today, to do it in front of you all. Sky NewsLewis Hamilton targeted by racists online after British Grand Prix win and Max Verstappen crash

Silverstone welcomes 140,000 fans for British GP and gives nation plenty to cheer about

Daily Mail 19 July, 2021 - 11:01am

By Nathan Salt For The Daily Mail

VIP helicopters pierced the clear blue sky overhead as fans basked in the morning sunshine in Northamptonshire.

Dare we say it, it felt normal, if normal still exists.

A negative Covid-19 test was all fans needed to get through the gates to this 550-acre site. From there, the drinks were flowing, while pleas for attendees to wear masks fell on deaf ears.

A massive 140,00 strong crowd were able to enjoy the Formula One British Grand Prix 

The fans were given plenty of reasons to cheers, including a home winner in Lewis Hamilton

Outside the paddock and media pen, trying to find a masked man or woman was about as easy as solving ‘Where’s Wally?’

‘I don’t like masks at all,’ Jordan, 26, who was attending a Grand Prix for the first time after bagging a £370 ticket, told Sportsmail in the fanzone.

‘I’m a massive Hamilton fan but it’s just so, so good to see people mixing and enjoying themselves. Days like today give me hope for the future.’

The event marked a key moment after the pandemic, welcoming the biggest crowd since 

Pierre Emerick-Aubameyang and tennis star Emma Raducanu were among those present 

With 140,000 here on Saturday, a total of 356,000 across the three-day weekend, this was a significant step forward. Monday may officially be Freedom Day but race day stole its thunder.

Here was the biggest crowd at a sporting event in the UK since the pandemic began. It was also the hottest day of the year.

‘Today shows how far we’ve come,’ said McLaren’s Lando Norris during the drivers’ parade lap. ‘It’s just so nice to see everyone here.’

Tom Cruise also flew in, mixing in the paddock in the baking heat on Sunday afternoon 

Team-mate Daniel Ricciardo described it as ‘perfect’ — which all seemed to depend on how much sun cream you’d brought. Not enough, was the answer for those I saw at Copse Corner where towels were out and sun-bathing took centre stage.

While many waited patiently by the helipad to spot the incoming celebrity guests, those of us with more modest budgets arrived by bus.

It wasn’t quite the luxury travel that brought Arsenal striker Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang to the circuit, nor Mission Impossible actor Tom Cruise, who was a guest of Mercedes.

The crowd may not have had enough sun cream but they had a great time at Silverstone 

But the buzz of excitement extended far beyond this old airfield. A taxi driver even asked to swap places for the day. Politely, I declined.

It felt fitting that it ended with Hamilton winning. His late surge to victory, with two-and-a-half laps to go, saw the grandstand next to the aptly named Hamilton Straight begin to shake, such was the roar that erupted.

The country had plenty to cheer — on and off the track.

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Hamilton vs Verstappen: We round up all the opinions after their controversial British GP clash

Formula 1 RSS UK 19 July, 2021 - 11:01am

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Verstappen was taken to hospital in the aftermath of the crash for checks, as Hamilton drove a searing recovery race to pass Ferrari’s Charles Leclerc three laps from the end and take victory, the 99th of his career. Here’s what he, and a number of other figures, had to say about the crash.

“I tried to give him the space but I was quite a long way up the inside into 9 and none of us backed out and that was the end result.

"I dummied him, moved to the right for that gap and I was pretty far up alongside him but I then could see he wasn’t going to back out, and we went into the corner, and we collided.

"When someone’s too aggressive, these things are bound to happen. There’s not really much more for me to say – hope he’s OK, because of course I would love to have a wheel-to-wheel battle for the whole race, I enjoy racing with him and I’m looking forward – but I will never back down from anyone and I will not be bullied into being less aggressive."

“I have reviewed the footage many times and still cannot help but feel that putting a wheel up the inside at Copse, one of the fastest corners in this World Championship, was ill-judged and a huge risk by Lewis to both drivers.

“He was not significantly alongside Max as you can see from the point of contact, Lewis’ front left to Max’s right rear. The move was never on and resulted in a 51G impact for Max.”

“These things are nasty to look at, but there is a clear regulation and that is something that is black and white on paper… that if the front axle is over the middle of the car on the outside, it's your corner. Now you can say, is that a corner that is equivalent to any other? Maybe not. But again, an accident involves two drivers.

“At the end they were racing each other hard... During the race we saw overtaking there. Charles and Lewis was another example, and I think you just need to give each other [room]. That would have been my opinion.”

“To be honest, [Lewis] is actually pretty much completely alongside Max – and then you’ve got two championship challengers gunning for the inside line at Copse, and one of them had to back out.

“[Lewis] was completely alongside – obviously he misses the apex slightly and moves into Max, but Max also keeps turning in, and he’s taking a huge risk doing that at Copse corner.

“It’s a tough one, a really tough one. I could have seen it as a racing incident, both racing each other so hard.”

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“It is very difficult to judge it from the car. We are very low, so it’s difficult to see. Everything went very quick, there were quite a few things going on around me. I think it’s a racing incident, it’s very difficult to put the blame on one or the other.

“Obviously there was a space on the inside, maybe Lewis was not completely at the apex, but it’s also true that Max was quite aggressive on the outside. So things happen, but I think what is the most important today is that Max is unharmed and is fine.”

“Max gives him the space, Hamilton is up the inside, but at no point... has he moved in front of Max Verstappen. Max is coming in and Lewis… does appear to be wide of the apex. When they’re making contact, his trajectory is heading wide of the apex.

“[Max] has given Lewis racing room, but he’s also, I think, expected Lewis to back out of it, that’s the critical thing. I think Lewis expected Max to back out of it, and Max expected Lewis to back out of it.

“Max could have given Lewis more room, but Lewis equally could have gone more to the kerb on the right-hand side… If you ask me, they could have both done more to avoid the incident, but I would put it down as a racing incident.”

“This has been brewing since race one of the championship… Part of me thinks Max could have closed [the door] to stop Lewis from ever going into that position, but at the same time… when Lewis overtook Charles, it was a similar position to me, maybe slightly different angles.”

“I obviously had a look at it, and honestly I had a bit of mixed feelings with the accident. First of all, wishing Max a speedy recovery, because I heard the crash was quite big.

“The accident itself I think is very difficult to judge. Only both know what they could have done differently to avoid the crash. It was very tight, they're obviously fighting for big things and I'd prefer not to judge too much.”

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"A win is a win" says Wolff as Mercedes halt Red Bull's victory run · RaceFans

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Mercedes team principal Toto Wolff defended Lewis Hamilton following his collision with Max Verstappen and subsequent victory in the British Grand Prix.

The stewards handed Hamilton a 10-second time penalty following the incident. However he was still able to catch and pass Charles Leclerc to take the team’s first win since the Spanish Grand Prix.

Valtteri Bottas finished third after allowing Hamilton past to chase the leading Ferrari in the closing laps.

“A win is a win and a third is a third and we scored big points today and that’s it,” said Wolff of the team’s result. “We put it on the scorecard and move on to the next one.

“It was always very intense because we are fighting with everything we have in order to hold on to this championship whilst knowing that we are not performing as [well as] Red Bull and Honda. Therefore we’ve had big points losses in the past, and today we scored big points. So that is always balancing itself out.”

Despite Hamilton being deemed at fault for the collision by the stewards, Wolff believes the controversy over the accident is based more on the speed of Verstappen’s crash than the nature of his driver’s infringement:

“I think that if that would have been a low or mid-speed corner, then it wouldn’t have been a big debate, obviously, or what the consequence of that [whether] a five or 10-second penalty,” said Wolff. “But it was a high-speed impact.

“It is a corner that takes lots of guts to even take flat alone. And when two cars are trying to drive through it they need to leave each other space in order to make it through the corner. And that wasn’t the case and the stewards deemed 10 seconds as appropriate, I guess because both drivers were part of the accident, not one alone, it’s always much more nuanced.”

Wolff defended his driver against criticism from Verstappen and Red Bull team principal Christian Horner. The latter accused Hamilton of “dirty driving” and questioned how he could take any satisfaction from the win.

“Everybody has an opinion and that’s okay,” said Wolff. “Of course, every team will have a certain bias towards incidents like that.

“When you hear the comments about his driving and the incident, Lewis is the contrary of someone that ever drives dirty. I think he’s a sportsman.”

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‘The guy is a stain on the human race’ You need to calm down pal.

We need this user removed from the site. So much nonsense and drivel being spewed out.

Sad to say this but perhaps we need a paywall for the comments section. Same thing has happened to my Favourite sports site, the Athletic when they started offering basically free subscriptions to anyone. The quality of discussion and debate went down as it is here.

Everything has become so personal and political. Very much polarized like our societies today. There has been very little objective debate on here in the last 24 hours and that is sad.

And he’s right, a win is a win and they should celebrate that.

To give you some context: I sat down to watch the race yesterday hoping for a Verstappen victory. Like many F1 fans, Mercedes’ dominance in recent years has been an issue for me and has detracted from the sport. Seeing Max in a car that allows him to fulfill his potential has been a breath of fresh air this season.

I was in Barcelona for Max’s first win. After the race I turned to my kids and said to them: “You’ve just witnessed something very important. The first win from a driver who is going to go on and be a world champion.”

What I didn’t say to them was that he and Red Bull shouldn’t have celebrated so wildly as he only won because Hamilton and Rosberg crashed into each other. That is, after all, the only reason he won that day.

Let Lewis and Mercedes enjoy their day. Otherwise, what is the point of competing in top level sport if you can’t enjoy the victories?

Max and Red Bull need to suck it up and mentally focus on Hungary, putting emotions to one side. They appear to have the better car and, in Max, a driver who is at least a match for Lewis Hamilton. He drives for a team which inherently seems to look for someone or something to blame when things don’t go perfectly. Max needs to be his own man and rise above that.

There’s no need for that kind of talk.

I’m a McLaren fan but I’ve always liked Verstappen and I watched the race yesterday wearing an orange 33 t-shirt.

You can think what you want. Your comments say more about you than they do about me.

It’s really quite sad how VER fans react with blanket statements and generalisations.

How many targets have you name-called in total?

I hope your children are now wise enough to explain the difference between Barcelona 2016 (team mates taking each other out, handing an opportunity to RedBull) and Silverstone yesterday (winning whilst the stewards blamed you for being predominantly responsible for taking your opponent out).

The stewards gave the second most lenient penalty available to them.

or was it the fourth most severe, plus just one short of the maximum penalty points ;)

@Sonny Crockett Sorry but those situations are hardly synonymous. In Spain 2016 two cars from the same team took each other out, but both drivers were clearly unhurt as there was no high G impact. Also whoever was to blame, both drivers were out of the race and so suffered ‘equally’.

Yesterday two championship rivals from different teams collided at high speed, resulting in one car going into the barriers at high speed and having the biggest impact of his career, ending in a trip to hospital, while the one deemed by the stewards to have caused the incident went on to win the race.

In Spain, Max had no reason not to celebrate because he was not involved in the incident and clearly there were no injured drivers, so there was nothing to sully any celebrations. Yesterday the driver who won was involved in the incident and the ‘victim’ was still being checked out for concussion and the like. That’s why people would have liked to see some contrition or at least acknowledgement of his part in the incident rather than full-on celebrations like nothing had happened and an overall defensive outlook regarding his part in it.

A win is a win, but a third is a poorly performing driver who should have been able to easily win when one of the two best drivers is out of the race, and the other has a penalty.

The Ham / Ver incident will cause many things from this weekend to be missed or quickly forgotten.

I think I have never ever in any sport seen such a sour team as Mercedes. They are disgraceful in defeat and a perfect example of bad sportsmanship. They truly are not fitting for F1. How they managed to get themselves into the dark side position is stunning and could have easily been avoided. Rarely you see a team fall this hard and this deep. Such a waste. All their achievements hollowed out and Lewis will go down history as also breaking Schumachers record on bad sportmanship and borderline behavior. What an end to something that could have been such a nice Mercedes story. I am so glad we’ll not be seeing Lewis around anymore soon. Take your place in history and pray it will never be repeated.

You know what? I’m glad hamilton renewed his contract, he’s in decline and while I’ve never been anti-hamilton, he seems to have become more unsportsmanlike lately (not sure about the saying in english, but if you live with liars, you learn to lie etc., with people like toto wolff around for years and the general mercedes culture), at this point I might become fully anti-hamilton as well, I was already anti-mercedes, so what I’m saying is it could be a positive he renewed, who says next merc is gonna be dominant? If by any chance red bull, ferrari and mclaren are even I count on norris, leclerc and verstappen to beat hamilton, so I’m basically just waiting for his loss now, his and mercedes, I don’t care who wins, although realistically only verstappen and red bull can do anything this year.

“Lewis is the contrary of someone that ever drives dirty. I think he’s a sportsman.”

Of course he’d say that, but Hamilton has been involved in collisions with pretty much all his title rivals. From Räikkönen and Massa in 2007 and 2008, to Rosberg in 2014-2016, Vettel in 2017-2018, and now Verstappen.

On Lap 16 of the race Pete Bonnington was telling Lewis there was a problem with Charles’s car and the team was happy for Lewis to pick up the pace, so Lewis responded by asking “What menu?”. So he was told “Menu Dash Position 5…Position 5”. Does anyone know what that message meant?

Guessing: I think the message wasn’t played entirely on the world feed, and Hamilton might’ve asked something before asking for the correct menu for the situation. Perhaps he wanted to see the gap/delta to Leclerc instead of something else the steering wheel display was shoving.

Looking at various images I can find of the current steering wheel, the Menu rotary position 5 is labelled as “Radio”. Doesn’t really help.

Ohh, interesting, this is from february 2020, I wonder now, seems mercedes have become more criticized by other people too:

It’s natural to dislike the team that has won every Championship in the turbo hybrid era.

Red Bull were equally unpopular under the previous regulations.

“It is difficult from the outside,” said the Alpine charger. “It looked quite close, Lewis had more than half a car alongside Max.

“So, in a way, Lewis could not disappear from the inside line, it’s not that you can vanish.

“It was an unfortunate moment of the race, but nothing intentional or nothing that any of the two drivers did wrong in my opinion. That was an unlucky moment.”

Yep, same as Karun Chandock said on the Sky pad, a racing incident. Both drivers could have changed the outcome but both were racing each other very hard and expected the other to move. I find it ludicrous seeing people on here try and make out Hamilton is solely responsible and made a wildly illegal move.. it was a racing incident!!

Imagine this stuff was coming from Ferrari. Leclerc takes Hamilton to the hospital on his way to win the Italian GP and celebrates with the best crowd and Binotto is bragging about it after the race.

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'Congratulations to Lewis, he did an incredible job'

GPblog 19 July, 2021 - 11:01am

The Ferrari driver surprised the spectators in the stands by battling right up there with Mercedes. "It’s difficult to enjoy 100%", he commented afterwards at the FIA press conference. "Of course it’s been an incredible race. I gave not 100% but 200%. I gave all of me, but it was just not enough in the last two laps."

The driver then paid his compliments to Hamilton, who overtook him a few laps before the end. "Congratulations to Lewis, he did an incredible job and it’s amazing to see so many fans in the grandstand. It was fun in the car but I lacked just a little bit of pace towards the end."

The seven-time world champion received a ten-second penalty during the race for the incident with Max Verstappen, when the pair made contact, and Verstappen spun into the barriers. Hamilton's victory means he is now just eight points behind Verstappen.

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Carlos Sainz says his Ferrari ‘belonged’ in the top three at Silverstone, after slow pit stop hampered his race | Formula 1®

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Sainz came into the pits from P2 on Lap 29 but a stubborn left-front tyre change meant his stop lasted 12.3 seconds and the Spaniard lost 37.5 seconds in the pit lane, which was 2.5s less than Lewis Hamilton spent in the pit lane serving a 10s stop-and-go penalty. The Ferrari driver was asked if he was disappointed after the race.

“Yes, of course, when you have such a strong pace and you do fastest laps and you are basically as fast as we were today it’s obviously difficult to take," he said. "But considering that [on Lap 1 of the F1 Sprint (below)] I was last and I managed to finish P6 [in the Grand Prix] with a very slow pit stop, it is still a positive result.

“I think the team has been great in pit stops this year and it’s the first mistake we do. It is what it is; it’s always going to happen during the year and congrats to Charles because today he put the car where it belonged.”

The British GP marked a third consecutive double-points haul for Ferrari and a huge turnaround in form after they failed to score at all in the French GP, four races ago.

“I mean, it’s been very positive, you know, to see that the car in clean air was as fast as it was today,” said Sainz. “I think as you said, at some point I was setting fastest lap on 25-[lap]-old mediums, so it shows that the tyre deg and the set-up and the car balance is improving.

“We are indeed looking to improve all the areas, still, but today at this circuit that we thought it was not going to be very good for us; we delivered, and the car was very nice to drive.”

The Scuderia left Silverstone with lots to smile about, with Leclerc having taken his first podium since the 2020 British GP after leading 49 laps - and Sainz’s points helping the team keep tabs on McLaren in their fight for P3 in the constructors’ championship.

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